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George L. Lorton
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Username: retro_geo
Post Number: 307
Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 10:51 pm: | 
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Fun topic for anyone interested.
Can you connect a Passenger or anything else from Titanic to the Lusitania or any other Shipwreck. An example would be, Alfred Vanderbilt was supposedly booked on Titanic's Maiden Voyage but cancelled but made the last voyage of the Lusitania and unfortunately lost his life in the sinking. Any connections like that would be interesting and enlightening. It doesn't have to be the Lusitania but does have to be a Shipwreck or any other Disaster. Another Example would be Violet Jessop who was a Stewardess on Titanic during it's Maiden Voyage and a nurse on the Britannic during the Fatal Voyage when it hit a mine or was torpedoed. Have Fun.
Cordially,
George L. Lorton
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Jason D. Tiller
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Username: jtiller
Post Number: 3937
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 11:35 pm: |
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Thomas Home, brother in law to Major Arthur Peuchen was scheduled to sail on Titanic, but cancelled. He sailed on the Lusitania's last voyage.
John Priest was a Fireman / Stoker on Titanic and would later sail on Britannic's fateful voyage.
"To be happy is to be contented in your own mind"...Harold Godfrey Lowe
43° 44' 01" N, 79° 24' 16"W
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Eric Longo
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Username: mauretania19061935
Post Number: 411
Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 12:18 am: |
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Hi,
Well, I think some woodwork/carving on Titanic/Olympic was executed by the firm of H.H. Martyn & Co., of Cheltenham, who did similar work on Lusitania/Mauretania.
Best,
Eric Longo
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Eric Longo
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Username: mauretania19061935
Post Number: 412
Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 1:27 am: |
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Hi Again,
"Well, I think some woodwork/carving on Titanic/Olympic was executed by the firm of H.H. Martyn & Co., of Cheltenham, who did similar work on Lusitania/Mauretania."
I am not so sure about this as I think about it - any other info out there?
Best,
Eric
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George L. Lorton
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Username: retro_geo
Post Number: 308
Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 2:31 am: |
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Great Idea Eric,
I was thinking just Passengers or Crew but I think building, Woodwork or any connection you can make is great too.
Hi Jason- I wonder if John Priest knew Violet Jessop or if they compared Titanic stories. Some how I doubt it but I couldn't resist.
Cordially,
George L. Lorton
Change is a good thing.
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Jason Schleisman
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Username: bioflosse
Post Number: 125
Registered: 2-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 3:45 am: |
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Hi Eric, I am unsure about H.H. Martyn & Co., of Cheltenham doing both ships, but I AM sure that "Geo. Trollope & Sons and Colls & Sons Ltd." of Westminster and London did some of the cabinet work and furniture for Lusitania.
In addition, N. Burt & Co. Ltd. supplied some of the light fixtures and hardware fittings to both the Lusitania as well as Titanic. William McGeoch & Co. of Birmingham also supplied hardware fittings (doorknobs, hinges, hooks, etc.) and lamps to both ships.
I believe many of the ship's navigational and other instruments were also supplied to both ships by the same firms.
If Titanic was powered by biodiesel, we would wear vegetable oil around our necks instead of coal
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Jason D. Tiller
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Username: jtiller
Post Number: 3939
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 6:21 pm: |
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Hi George,
quote:I wonder if John Priest knew Violet Jessop or if they compared Titanic stories.
It's a possibility as they both worked on the Titanic and Olympic previously. But, it's only speculation at best.
"To be happy is to be contented in your own mind"...Harold Godfrey Lowe
43° 44' 01" N, 79° 24' 16"W
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George L. Lorton
Member
Username: retro_geo
Post Number: 313
Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 11:48 pm: |
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Hi Jason,
Well any things possible but I doubt that Mr. Priest or Miss Jessop would have had the time to meet much less discuss ships they served on. But you never know. I was being a bit of a wag when I wrote that.
Cordially,
George L. Lorton
Change is a good thing.
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Martin Owen Cahill
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Username: martin
Post Number: 529
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 11:34 am: |
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Lady Lucille Duff Gordon left the Titanic in Boat #1 with her Husband Sir Cosmo Duff Gordon.
She was booked to cross to Liverpool on the May 1 sailing in 1915 but ill health meant her forgoing the travel. She was so unwell that it is believed she would not have been able to get up on deck.
She is said to have favoured the Lusi over the Mauri for the Atlantic crossing.
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The Lusitania carried a number of Titanic survivors back to England including the Duff Gordons.
"No Sir, We just hit the cruiser"
helmsman on Queen Mary
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George L. Lorton
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Username: retro_geo
Post Number: 321
Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 7:53 pm: |
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I thought I had read somewhere, maybe here on this site that Lady Lucy Duff Gordon was booked to sail on Lusitania's final voyage. She must of been counting her lucky stars that she didn't. Lucy on the Lusi-sorry couldn't resist that one.
Cordially,
George L. Lorton
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Jason D. Tiller
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Username: jtiller
Post Number: 3941
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 8:27 pm: |
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Hi George,
quote:I thought I had read somewhere, maybe here on this site that Lady Lucy Duff Gordon was booked to sail on Lusitania's final voyage.
She was. See Martin's post right above yours.
"To be happy is to be contented in your own mind"...Harold Godfrey Lowe
43° 44' 01" N, 79° 24' 16"W
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George L. Lorton
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Username: retro_geo
Post Number: 322
Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 10:33 pm: |
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Oops
Hi Jason
I should of been more clear. I should of said that I had read somewhere before on Encyclopedia Titanica that Lady Duff Gordon was booked on Lusitania's final voyage. In fact as I recall reading that she couldn't make the voyage because I believe she had to have emergency surgery though I could be wrong. Memory can be faulty. Especially mine.
Cordially,
George L. Lorton
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Jason D. Tiller
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Username: jtiller
Post Number: 3943
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 11:11 pm: |
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Hi George,
quote:In fact as I recall reading that she couldn't make the voyage because I believe she had to have emergency surgery
According to Martin's post, it was due to ill health that prevented her from making the crossing. It turned out to be a blessing in disguise for her.
"To be happy is to be contented in your own mind"...Harold Godfrey Lowe
43° 44' 01" N, 79° 24' 16"W
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George L. Lorton
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Username: retro_geo
Post Number: 323
Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 1:51 am: |
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That it did thanks Jason
Cordially,
George L. Lorton
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Bob Godfrey
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Username: bobgod1
Post Number: 3738
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 10:05 am: |
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Just a small correction about Violet Jessop. After the outbreak of the Great War she worked for a time as a VAD nursing assistant but found the work very stressfull. By the time she signed on for the Britannic she was serving in her old role as a stewardess, not a nurse. |
Martin Owen Cahill
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Username: martin
Post Number: 531
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 1:07 pm: |
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What I posted was what I know. It could have been to surgery. What I do know is she didn't join the ship. She must have been greatly shocked by the news.
"No Sir, We just hit the cruiser"
helmsman on Queen Mary
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George L. Lorton
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Username: retro_geo
Post Number: 329
Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 3:33 pm: |
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Hi Martin
You probably knew more then me about Lady Duff Gordan.
Cordially,
George L. Lorton
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Hildur Panula-Heinonen
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Username: titanic_relatives
Post Number: 182
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 16, 2007 - 6:17 pm: |
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There is a kind of connection between the Titanic and the Lusitania and the Panula family. Juho Panula, Sr. took the Lusitania in Nov 1911 to New York, and his wife and five sons took Titanic, but sadly the wife and sons all perished.
Does anyone know of any passengers records/lists for a ship called Bremen that would have sailed from Germany? to America in the early 1890's? I have found a short piece of information regarding an ancestor aboard that ship. Some people tell me that most the records for that ship were destroyed with Germany's bombing during the second world war.
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