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Jason Schleisman
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Username: bioflosse
Post Number: 1159
Registered: 2-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 4:33 am: | 
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Those models are indeed amazing! I was almost just as amazed by the young onlooker actually using the term "hors d'oeuvre". What little kid knows about that?
aka: the "Mad Hatter"
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James Martindale
Member
Username: james
Post Number: 13
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Friday, April 18, 2008 - 12:03 am: |
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^That guy has some serious talent.
"Damned iceberg. Damned iceberg..."
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Michael Poirier
Member
Username: mike_poirier
Post Number: 770
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Friday, April 18, 2008 - 6:26 pm: |
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I was finally able to get a mention in the Liverpool Echo. Hopefully it carries over to other papers.
Sitting on stuff is called, 'squatty toad syndrome'.
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Michael Poirier
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Username: mike_poirier
Post Number: 777
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Monday, April 21, 2008 - 1:43 pm: |
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Slowly the news of Barbara makes the papers. Here is a nice write up
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/04/21/db2103.xml
Sitting on stuff is called, 'squatty toad syndrome'.
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Arun Vajpey
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Username: zekenwolf
Post Number: 15
Registered: 4-2009
| | Posted on Friday, April 24, 2009 - 3:16 pm: |
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>>Why is it that the world is completely captivated by Titanic and every single detail surrounding the ship and her people, and so very few take any notice of Lusitania<<
I think the "time and place" factor has something to do with it.
The Titanic sank in 1912 when it was peacetime and the world in general was complacent...the so called Gilded Age. Even though the Lusitania sank only 3 years later, The First World War was in full swing and the mindset of the people and media was different...being used to large scale casualties.
The Titanic was at the time the largest ship in the world on its maiden voyage while the Lusitania was not quite the largest, 8 years old and on its 202nd Atlantic crossing.
I don't know for sure but maybe the publicity personnel of Cunard where not quite as bombastic as those of White Star.
The Titanic had too few lifeboats and took 2 hours and 40 minutes to sink; whereas the Lusitania, even with more than enough boats, went down in 18 minutes.
One of the most important factors could be that the Titanic sank to the mid-ocean depths and virtually disappeared from existence for 73 years before Ballard's discovery. The Lusitania is near the Irish coast in less than 400 feet of water and so less mysterious. |
Matt DiTullio
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Username: edinboro
Post Number: 16
Registered: 6-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, October 8, 2009 - 4:06 am: |
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I find this topic to be a little off. If Titanic is the most famous shipwreck then Lusitania is not too far off. Almost everyone I know knows about it and it's briefly taught in almost every history class i've ever been in. I was lucky enough in high school to know about it and give certain classes a bit more understanding. Also, there are plenty of books and documentaries about the ship. I dont find it forgettable in the least. |
Jeremy Aufderheide
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Username: jerauf
Post Number: 475
Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, October 8, 2009 - 1:17 pm: |
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While I think that this has been covered quite extensively on the IMDB board for Titanic 97, I don't think that that "almost everyone" knows about the Lusitania. |
Matt DiTullio
Member
Username: edinboro
Post Number: 18
Registered: 6-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, October 8, 2009 - 3:42 pm: |
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Well you may be right. I just know that in my high school we covered it and next week we begin WW1 in my University History course. It's in the text so i'm sure we will be talking about it. Excited! ;) |
Michael H. Standart
Moderator
Username: mstandart
Post Number: 30867
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Friday, October 9, 2009 - 4:20 am: |
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>>Well you may be right. I just know that in my high school we covered it and next week we begin WW1 in my University History course.<<
Years and years ago, (Back in the Stone Age) when I went to high school, history had been replaced by "Social Studies" Not surprisingly, history education took a back seat and not just with the Lusitania. Occasionally, I'll mention the ship in a conversation and all I get are blank stares. Even with people who went to school when dinosaurs still roamed the Earth and history was a subject which was taken seriously.
Cordially,
Michael H. Standart
Equal Opportunity Curmudgeon
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Martin Owen Cahill
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Username: martin
Post Number: 654
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Friday, October 9, 2009 - 7:13 am: |
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Social studies Michael?
sounds like you're 60's baby as well 
Social studies we did in our fist two years at High School which combined history, geography and current events. A real primer for the specialisations we would encounter in the 5th Form.
As for the Lusi she is historically significant as one of the new developments of warfare like the use of gas attacks and aerial bombing of cities(by Zeppelins)
cheers
Martin.
"No Sir, We just hit the cruiser"
helmsman on Queen Mary
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Michael H. Standart
Moderator
Username: mstandart
Post Number: 30894
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Saturday, October 10, 2009 - 4:18 am: |
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>>sounds like you're 60's baby as well <<
Tail end of 1959 actually.
>>As for the Lusi she is historically significant as one of the new developments of warfare like the use of gas attacks and aerial bombing of cities(by Zeppelins)<<
I think her signifigence was more along the lines of what caused her demise. Submarines had been used sparodically in combat as far back as the American Revolution, but their effectiveness was at best equally sparodic and they had a habit of either not getting their targets or getting lost.
The invention of storage battaries and the internal combustion engine changed all of that. They stopped being a trivial irritant to become a real threat.
Cordially,
Michael H. Standart
Equal Opportunity Curmudgeon
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Martin Owen Cahill
Member
Username: martin
Post Number: 655
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, October 10, 2009 - 5:29 am: |
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good point Michael, I should have seen that but would it come up in class though?
...unless one of the boys (or girls) is a ship geek (as I was ).
"No Sir, We just hit the cruiser"
helmsman on Queen Mary
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Michael H. Standart
Moderator
Username: mstandart
Post Number: 30908
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Sunday, October 11, 2009 - 4:45 am: |
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>>I should have seen that but would it come up in class though?<<
As shallow and as often inaccurate as history teaching in schools these days is, I wouldn't bet the beer money on it! Much of what I've seen appears to concentrate on memorizing dates and some sort of approved national mythos. The hows, the whys, the dynamics of the events and the people involved gets little real attention.
It all needs to, but it doesn't.
Cordially,
Michael H. Standart
Equal Opportunity Curmudgeon
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