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Martin Owen Cahill
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Post Number: 73
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Sunday, July 7, 2002 - 1:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

There has been some debate as to whether the Lusi "stood on her nose with her stern out of the water" or not.

Eric Sauder has argued that this could not have taken place. I had tested this myself before I knew how he arrived at his conclusions and came to the same conclusion.

Having come into possession of the transcipt of the open sessions of the Mersey inquiry I have finally found the source of this red herring.
read on...

927. ...and then she went down by the head
herself, and. I take it as far as I can
judge, she upended herself until her
nose touched the bottom and then she sank
down herself.

928. So, according to you, she got into a
position almost vertical? - I should say
she had an angle of about 30 degrees from
perpendicular.
930. Then, I think you went off, with #15 ...

This was 1st officer Arthur Rowland Jones under cross examination by Mr Branson who appeared for the Board of Trade. [p.26 16 June 1915]

It seems that these "Learned" men forgot everything they heard in the TITANIC inquiry since a ship upending to the degree Jones describes would have seen most people slide down the boat deck into the sea as happened on the TITANIC. I doubt very much whether #15 or any other boats would have been launched afterwards.
#21 was the last boat way and went away fully loaded after being lowered to the sea by the foundering ship. [ Diamandis p.34]

Martin
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Martin Owen Cahill
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Post Number: 76
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Posted on Sunday, July 7, 2002 - 1:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I was going to post a diagram to illustrate the point but the "add attachment" function has been deleted :-(

If you want to receive one let me know and I will send it to you.

cheers

Martin
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Martin Owen Cahill
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Post Number: 456
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Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I give up!!
This must be the most user un-Friendly site on the internet for posting images on. :-(
"No Sir, We just hit the cruiser"
helmsman on Queen Mary
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Mark Baber
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Post Number: 2147
Registered: 12-2000
Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 8:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If you email me a description of the problem you've been having, Martin, I'll see if we have any solution.
MAB
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