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Eric Sauder
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Post Number: 106
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Monday, April 29, 2002 - 7:39 am: | 
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Hi, Brian:
Sorry to hear Preston got other names wrong as well. I'll e-mail you, and we can discuss the book.
I got a copy of the David Ramsay book while I was in England (Thanks, Geoff!) and was sorry to see he has the same "name deficiency." He calls Percy Hefford "Simon" several times and then gets it right at the end and calls him "Percy." He does that to a number of other passengers and crew as well. <sigh>
I just got a ton of new information from the families of a few passengers we've been wondering about for a while. I'm out of town at the moment, but when I get home, I'll e-mail you with details.
Eric |
Hildo Thiel
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Post Number: 439
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Monday, April 29, 2002 - 10:41 am: |
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Hello Eric,
Thank you for the information about the pictures. There are indeed some errors in the Preston book. I have read the captionaed in the Robert D. Ballard and Spencer Dunmore Book. I think that other authors ought to say the same about the picture. This is what the Preston book says "Gazing out from the deck of the Lusitania, these women are possibly American nurses for the Western Front"
So the Moore's are the Mitchells. I had already understood, that Doris Maud Charles was named Lawlor in the book. And Olive North named Hanson in the book...... Are there some more errors about the names?
Regards,
Hildo |
Eric Sauder
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Username: eric
Post Number: 110
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, May 2, 2002 - 7:01 pm: |
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Hildo:
Further to my post above about the photo on page 36 of Exploring the Lusitania, I checked the back of Edith's original photo, and she has the girl on the left labeled as Ethel.
Eric Sauder |
Hildo Thiel
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Post Number: 440
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| | Posted on Thursday, May 2, 2002 - 9:24 pm: |
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Eric
Thank you for the information about the photo.
So, the children are John, Edith and Ethel.
Regards,
Hildo |
Hildo Thiel
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Post Number: 455
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 9:59 am: |
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The Lusitania passengerlist figures:
Aboard of the ship were 1265 passengers.
291 First class passengers
601 Second class passengers
373 Third class passengers
And 693 crew members
Of the 291 first class passengers were:
57 married women, 30 unmarried women, 14 children and 190 men.
Of the 601 second class passengers were:
155 married women, 102 unmarried women, 85 children and 259 men.
Of the 373 third class passengers were:
56 married women, 39 unmarried women, 38 children and 240 men.
Of the crew were:
10 married women, 15 unmarried women and 668 men.
First class Aboard/ Saved/ Died
Married women 57/ 21/ 36
Unmarried women 30/ 13/ 17
Children 14/ 02/ 12
Men 190/ 78/ 112
Total 291/ 114/ 177
Second Class
Married Women 155/ 63/ 92
Unmarried Women 102/ 35/ 67
Children 85/ 27/ 58
Men 259/ 102/ 157
Total 601/ 227/ 374
Third Class
Married Women 56/ 19/ 37
Unmarried Women 39/ 17/ 22
Children 38/ 12/ 26
Men 240/ 86/ 154
Total 373/ 134/ 239
Crew
Married Women 10/ 05/ 05
Unmarried Women 15/ 04/ 11
Men 668/ 283/ 385
Total 693/ 292/ 401
Among the saved in the passengers figures are the names of three passengers who died soon after the disaster. One was on the official list as dead while the other two were among the saved so I have them all as saved. They are Alfred Russell Clarke from first class, he died on June 20th 1915, Master Campbell McKetchan, died on September 15th 1915, He was as dead on the official list, but he died later than the other two. And Mrs. Harriet Plank, died on August 3rd 1915.
Regards,
Hildo
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Hildo Thiel
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Post Number: 466
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Sunday, October 6, 2002 - 2:59 pm: |
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Hello All,
I am looking for additional information about some of Lusitania passengers.
About the Gardner family: Does anyone knows how old James Gardner and his wife Edith were at the time of the disaster. And what the maiden name of Mrs. Gardner was. Also what became from their sons William and Eric after the disaster?
Also I am looking for information on the maiden names, names of the husbands of the women traveling alone on the Lusitania and ages of the following women in second class:
Mrs. Philip Abas nee Beatrice ? age 26
Mrs. ? Ackroyd nee Hannah ? age ?
Mrs. ? Armitage nee Florence Gertrude ? age ?
Mrs. ? Barker nee Martha ? age ?
Mrs. William Baxter nee Annie E. age ?
Mrs. ? Beattie nee Grace S. ? age ?
Mrs. E. Bingley nee Catherine ? age ?
Mrs. ? Bird nee Rose ? age ?
Mrs. Edward Booth-Jones nee Millichamp Jones age ?
Mrs. ? Bourke nee Mabel ? age ?
Mrs. Richard H. Brammer nee Elizabeth J. age 32
Mrs. Cyril Bretherton nee Norah Edith Keating age ?
Mrs. Thomas Brownlie nee Margaret ? age ?
Mrs. Hugh B. Bryce nee Arabella ? age ?
Mrs. J.H. Bull nee Elizabeth ? age ?
Mrs. Andrew T. Burdon nee Ella ? age 24
Mrs. Reuben Burley nee Florence ? age ?
Mrs. W. Butler nee Margaret ? age 40
Mrs. William Campbell nee Amy E. ? age ?
Mrs. Arthur Candlish nee Ellen ? age ?
Mrs. John Catherwood nee Maria ? age 36
Mrs. Adam Chalmers nee Blanche ? age ?
Mrs. Harold Chantry nee Mina ? age 21
Mrs. Francis William Clarke nee Nore ? age ?
Mrs. William Clayton nee ? ? age ?
Mrs. William Colbert nee Helena ? age 45
Mrs. S.J. Cox nee Margaret E. ? age 27
Mrs. Stanley Chritchinson nee Lillian ? age ?
Mrs. Cyrus Crossley nee Sylvia ? age ?
Mrs. Arthur Dixon nee Bertha ? age ?
Mrs. William Docherty nee Mabel ? age 29
Mrs. Robert Duncan nee ? ? age ?
Mrs. Arthur W. Elliot nee Annie Louise ? age 25
Mrs. Alexander Ferrier nee Elizabeth M. ? age ?
Mrs. William Finch nee Eva E. ? age ?
Mrs. ? Fish nee Sarah Mary ? age ?
Mrs. Francis Fox nee Emily ? age ?
Mrs. ? Fyfe nee Jennie ? age ?
Mrs. ? Gilhooly nee Catherine ? age ?
Mrs. James P. Gray nee ? ? age ?
Mrs. Terrance Gray nee Florence ? age ?
Mrs. Herbert Linford Gwyer nee Margaret Ingliss Adams Cairns age ?
Mrs. John Hamilton nee Isabella ? age ?
Mrs. Samuel Hanson nee Mary ? age ?
Mrs. Reuben Harris nee Emma ? age 61
Mrs. ? Hastings nee Margaret ? age ?
Mrs. H.R. Henderson nee Violet ? age ?
Mrs. Ernest George Henn nee Edith Mabel ? age 27
Mrs. ? Henshaw nee Mabel ? age ?
Mrs. E.V. Herbert nee Florence ? age 26
Mrs. Richard Hill nee ? ? age ?
Mrs. ? Hogg nee Ellen ? age 28
Mrs. H.L. Holland nee Nina ? age
Mrs. ? Horton nee Elizabeth ? age ?
Mrs. George Hull nee Winifred ? age ?
Mrs. ? Hume nee Mary A. ? age ?
Mrs. George H. Hunter nee Maggie ? age ?
Mrs. ? Jones nee Ellen ? age ?
Mrs. James Kay nee Rita ? age ?
Mrs. ? Kenney nee Margaret ? age ?
Mrs. ? Kinch nee Eunice ? age 45
Mrs. ? King nee Martha Frances ? age ?
Mrs. Edward Lawranson nee Elizabeth ? age ?
Mrs. ? Leverich nee Rosina Thomas ? age 60
Mrs. John Lewis nee Jane ? age 31
Mrs. ? Little nee Margaret ? age ?
Mrs. ? Lohden nee Rose Mary ? age ?
Mrs. David Loynd nee Alice Grimshaw age ?
Mrs. ? Macfarquhar nee Jana Ann ? age ?
Mrs. ? MacGregor nee Betsy ? age ?
Mrs. Joseph Macky nee Mary ? age ?
Mrs. Alfred R. Mainman nee Annie ? age ?
Mrs. Joseph Pierre Marichal nee Jessie ? age ?
Mrs. William Martin-Davey nee Elizabeth ? age 53
Mrs. ? Mathewson nee Maud E.S. ? age ?
Mrs. Robert Matthews nee Annie ? age ?
Mrs. James A. McColm nee Christina Harrow S. ? age ?
Mrs. Daniel McCorkindale nee Elizabeth ? age 33
Mrs. ? McHardy nee Annie ? age ?
Mrs. ? McKenzie nee Mary A. ? age ?
Mrs. Robert McKetchan nee Elizabeth Ballantyne age ?
Mrs. Robert McKinnon nee ? ? age ?
Mrs. ? Middlemast nee Elizabeth L. ? age ?
Mrs. ? Miller nee Aubrey Lundgren age ?
Mrs. Walter Dawson Mitchell nee Millicent Jeanette Moore age ?
Mrs. ? Moody nee Martha ? age ?
Mrs. ? Murray nee C. Rose ? age ?
Mrs. Henry Neilson nee Frances ? age ?
Mrs. Albert Neville nee Mabel ? age ?
Mrs. Hubert Owens nee Cecelia ? age ?
Mrs. Frank Partlett nee Amy ? age ?
Mrs. ? Peacock nee Elizabeth F. Todd age ?
Mrs. Cyril Elsmore Pells nee Mary Anita ? age ?
Mrs. ? Pirrie nee Annie ? age ?
Mrs. ? Plank nee Harriet ? age 62
Mrs. Thomas William Poole nee Gertrude Kate Elizabeth Veale age ?
Mrs. ? Prescott nee Bertha ? age ?
Mrs. Reginald Purse nee Gertrude A. ? age ?
Mrs. William S. Pye nee Charlotte ? age 28
Mrs. Thomas Henry Richards nee Phyllis ? age 38
Mrs. James Richardson nee Annie ? age ?
Mrs. Thomas H. Robinson nee Edith ? age ?
Mrs. ? Semple nee Agnes ? age ?
Mrs. James Shineman nee Margaret McKenzie age ?
Mrs. Albert R. Smith nee Gladys ? age ?
Mrs. Alfred F. Smith nee Elizabeth A. age ?
Mrs. John B. Spillman nee Eliza ? age ?
Mrs. ? Stevenson nee Janet ? age ?
Mrs. James Stewart nee Christina ? age 30
Mrs. George Stokes nee Mabel ? age ?
Mrs. Edward P.W. Stroud nee Constance ? age ?
Mrs. Florence Sullivan nee Julia ? age ?
Mrs. George Sullivan nee Emily ? age ?
Mrs. ? Surman nee Mabel ? age ?
Mrs. A.R. Taylor nee Annie S. Johnson age ?
Mrs. Ernest Thomas nee Mary ? age ?
Mrs. James Tierney nee Mary ? age 26
Mrs. ? Trevanow nee Caroline ? age ?
Mrs. James Tullock nee Agnes ? age ?
Mrs. Thomas K. Turpin nee Maud ? age ?
Mrs. John Francis Varcoe nee Lavinia ? age ?
Mrs. Frederick G. Webster nee Margaret ? age ?
Mrs. ? Whyath nee Martha ? age 60
Mrs. ? Wickham nee Nina (Ann) ? age ?
Mrs. Cyril Wickings-Smith nee Phyllis Bailey Fenn age ?
Mrs. Arthur V. Wiggins nee Sarah H. ? age ?
Mrs. ? Williams nee Jane ? age ?
Mrs. John Wolfenden nee Dora ? age ?
Mrs. Edmond Victor Woolven nee Helen Saunders age ?
Mrs. Charles Worden nee ? ? age ?
Mrs. ? Wylie nee Emma ? age ?
Mrs. Charles Yeatman nee Cora ? age 36
Regards,
Hildo |
Hildo Thiel
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Post Number: 471
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Monday, November 18, 2002 - 12:53 pm: |
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Hello,
Does anybody knows what happend to Frederick Webster and his son William after the disaster?
And what became of the children who survived without their parents or who lost one of their, Eric and William Gardner, Molly Mainman and the twins Elizabeth and Edwin. Robert Kay and Nigel Frederick Booth.
Regards,
Hildo |
Margaret Collister
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Username: margaret
Post Number: 1
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2003 - 11:06 pm: |
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http://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/cgi-bin/discus/show.cgi?tpc=10245&post=71701#POST71701
Hello,
Harriet Plank's maiden name was Slinger. She died 31st July 1915 aged 61, her husband's name was David Plank, he died 22nd November 1943 aged 90.
Margaret
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Hildo Thiel
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Username: hildo
Post Number: 481
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 8, 2003 - 10:44 am: |
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Hello Margaret,
Thanks for the information and the correction on Mrs. Plank's age.
Regards,
Hildo |
Hildo Thiel
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Username: hildo
Post Number: 482
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Sunday, February 23, 2003 - 2:51 pm: |
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Hello All,
I still working at my Lusitania passenger list, found the last weeks a lot of information on the Ellis Island Site. And got a lot of information from others.
Still looking for a lot of additional information on the married women aboard the Lusitania, concerning their age, maiden name or name of their husband.
Of the following married women:
First class
Saved:
6. Mrs. William Henry Chapman (Ellen Elizabeth ? ) (59)
8. Mrs. Wilfred R. Keeble (Fannie Maud ? ) (32)
10. Mrs. Charles Alfred Learoyd (Mabel Kate ? ) (?)
11. Mrs. Reginald Popham Lobb (Mary Beatrice ? ) (31)
13. Mrs. Max Samuel Morell (Georgina ? ) (76)
16. Mrs. Michael N. Pappadopoulo (Angela ? ) (32)
20. Mrs. Alexander Thomas Wakefield (Mary Gertrude ? ) (?)
Died:
2. Mrs. ? Brown (Mary Catherine Wolf) (51)
5. Mrs. George Robert Copping (Emma Louisa ? ) (?)
9. Mrs. Joseph Alan Dredge (Evelyn ? ) (39)
11. Mrs. Montague Tassell Grant (Chastina Janet ? ) (44)
15. Mrs. ? Kennedy (Caroline Hickson) (53)
18. Mrs. Paul Boutellier (Elise ? ) (47)
20. Mrs. Henry D. Macdona (Amelia ? ) (59)
21. Mrs. Stewart Southam Mason (Leslie Hawthorne Lindsey) (?)
22. Mrs. Charles Munro (? ?) (?)
23. Mrs. T.O. Osbourne (Irene ? ) (?)
27. Mrs. Frank Albert Rogers (Agnes Bloor Hill) (?)
31. Mrs. George Washington Stephens (Frances Ramsey McIntosh) (?)
34. Mrs. Anthony Watson (Katherine ? ) (?)
36. Mrs. James M. Young (Georgina A. ? ) (?)
Second class
Saved
1. Mrs. Albert E. Adams (Gertrude Pollett) (?)
2. Mrs. ? Amory (Phoebe Sledge) (60?)
4. Mrs. ? Barker (Martha Ann ?) (?)
5. Mrs. William Baxter (Annie E. ? ) (?)
7. Mrs. Richard H. Brammer (Elizabeth Jane ? ) (32)
9. Mrs. Thomas Brownlie (Margaret ? ) (?)
10. Mrs. Hugh B. Bryce (Arabella ? ) (?)
11. Mrs. Andrew T. Burdon (Ellen ? ) (24)
12. Mrs. William Campbell (Amy E. ? ) (?)
13. Mrs. Arthur Candlish (Ellen ? ) (30?)
14. Mrs. S.J. Cox (Margaret Elizabeth ? ) (27)
15. Mrs. Cyrus Crossley (Sylvia ? ) (?)
16. Mrs. Arthur Dixon (Bertha ?) (?)
17. Mrs. William Docherty (Mabel ? ) (29)
18. Mrs. Robert Duncan (? ?) (?)
19. Mrs. Arthur W. Elliott (Annie Louise ? ) (25)
20. Mrs. Alexander Hubert Buxton Ferrier (Elizabeth Margaret ? ) (?)
21. Mrs. ? Fish (Sarah Mary ? ) (?)
23. Mrs. ? Fyfe (Jennie ? ) (65)
24. Mrs. ? Gilhooly (Catherine ? ) (?)
25. Mrs. Herbert Linford Gwyer (Margaret Inglis Adams Cairns) (?)
26. Mrs. H.R. Henderson (Violet ? ) (?)
27. Mrs. George Henshaw (Mabel Iris ? ) (27)
28. Mrs. Richard Hill (Caroline ? ) (?)
29. Mrs. ? Hogg (Ellen ? ) (28)
30. Mrs. H.L. Holland (Nina ? ) (?)
31. Mrs. George Hull (Winifred ? ) (?)
32. Mrs. John Lewis (Jane ? ) (31)
34. Mrs. ? Lohden (Rose Mary ? ) (?)
36. Mrs. ? MacFarquhar (Jane Ann ? ) (?)
37. Mrs. Joseph Pierre Marichal (Jessie ? ) (?)
38. Mrs. James A. McColm (Christina Harrow S.) (33)
39. Mrs. Robert McKetchan (Elizabeth Ballantyne) (?)
40. Mrs. ? Middlemast (Elizabeth L. ?) (?)
44. Mrs. Albert Neville (Mabel ? ) (?)
47. Mrs. Cyril Elmore Pells (Mary Anita ? ) (?)
49. Mrs. William Pye (Charlotte Lillian ? ) (28)
51. Mrs. James Richardson (Annie ? ) (39)
52. Mrs. Thomas H. Robinson (Edith ? ) (?)
54. Mrs. James Stewart (Christina ? ) (30)
55. Mrs. Edward P.W. Stroud (Constance ? ) (?)
56. Mrs. Florence Sullivan (Julia ? ) (?)
57. Mrs. Thomas Keith Turpin (Maud ? ) (?)
58. Mrs. ? Wyath (Martha Ann ? ) (60)
59. Mrs. Cyril Wickings-Smith (Phyllis Bailey Fenn) (?)
60. Mrs. Arthur V. Wiggins (Sarah H. ? ) (?)
62. Mrs. John Wolfenden (Dora ? ) (?)
Died
1. Mrs. Philip Abas (Beatrice ? ) (26)
2. Mrs. ? Ackroyd (Hannah ? ) (?)
4. Mrs. ? Armitage (Florence Gertrude ? ) (?)
5. Mrs. William G. Bailey (Jessie Annie Hanford) (?)
7. Mrs. J. Beattie (Grace S. ? ) (?)
8. Mrs. ? Bird (Rose ? ) (?)
10. Mrs. Edward Booth Jones (Millichamp Jones) (?)
11. Mrs. ? Bourke (Mabel Juliet ? ) (?)
12. Mrs. J.H. Bull (Elizabeth ? )
13. Mrs. Reuben Burley (Florence ? ) (?)
14. Mrs. W. Butler (Margaret ? ) (40)
16. Mrs. Adam Chalmers (Blanche ? ) (?)
18. Mrs. Harold Chantry (Mina ? ) (21)
20. Mrs. Frank Clarke (Nore ? ) (?)
21. Mrs. William Clayton (? ?) (?)
23. Mrs. ? Condon (Delia Josephine Doyle) (?)
24. Mrs. Stanley Critchinson (Lillian ? ) (?)
25. Mrs. E. Dingley (Catherine Glenn) (?)
26. Mrs. William Finch (Eva E. ? ) (?)
27. Mrs. Francis Fox (Emily ? ) (?)
28. Mrs. James Gardner (Edith ? ) (?)
29. Mrs. Arthur Grandidge (Nancie B. ? ) (26)
30. Mrs. William Hiram Gray (Teresa Florence ? ) (24)
32. Mrs. John Hamilton (Isabella Murrhead) (?)
33. Mrs. Samuel Hanson (Mary ? ) (?)
34. Mrs. Reuben Harris (Emma ? ) (61)
35. Mrs. ? Hastings (Margaret ? ) (?)
36. Mrs. Ernest George Henn (Edith Mabel ? ) (27)
37. Mrs. E.V. Herbert (Florence ? ) (26)
38. Mrs. ? Horton (Elizabeth ? ) (?)
39. Mrs. ? Hume (Mary Agnes Elliott) (?)
40. Mrs. George H. Hunter (Maggie ? ) (?)
41. Mrs. ? Jones (Ellen ? ) (?)
43. Mrs. Peter Kenney (Margaret ? ) (?)
44. Mrs. William Kinch (Eunice ? ) (45)
45. Mrs. ? King (Martha Frances ? ) (?)
47. Mrs. Edward Lawranson (Elizabeth ? ) (?)
48. Mrs. William Edward Leverich (Rosina Thomas ?) (60)
49. Mrs. J.? Little (Margaret ? ) (24)
51. Mrs. David Loynd (Alice ? ) (?)
52. Mrs. Arthur L. MacGregor (Betsy ? ) (?)
53. Mrs. Joseph Macky (Mary ? ) (?)
54. Mrs. Alfred Reid Mainman (Annie ? ) (?)
56. Mrs. ? Mathewson (Maud E.S. ? ) (?)
57. Mrs. Robert Matthews (Annie ? ) (?)
58. Mrs. Daniel McCorkindale (Elizabeth ? ) (33)
59. Mrs. ? McHardy (Annie ? ) (?)
60. Mrs. ? McKenzie (Mary A. ? ) (?)
61. Mrs. Robert McKinnon (? ?) (?)
62. Mrs. Aubrey Millar (Margaret Todd) (?)
63. Mrs. ? Moody (Martha Hemphill or Hunphill) (70)
64. Mrs. Henry Neilson (Frances ? ) (?)
66. Mrs. Frank Partlett (Amy ? ) (?)
67. Mrs. ? Pirrie (Annie ? ) (?)
68. Mrs. Thomas William Poole (Gertrude Kate Elizabeth Veale) (?)
69. Mrs. ? Prescott (Bertha Martin) (30)
70. Mrs. Reginald Purse (Gertrude A. ? ) (?)
71. Mrs. ? Semple (Agnes ? ) (?)
72. Mrs. James Shineman (Margaret McKenzie) (?)
73. Mrs. Albert R. Smith (Gladys E. ? ) (31)
74. Mrs. Alfred F. Smith (Elizabeth A. ? ) (?)
75. Mrs. John B. Spillman (Eliza ?) (?)
76. Mrs. ? Stevenson (Janet M. ? ) (?)
77. Mrs. George Stokes (Mabel ? ) (?)
79. Mrs. George Sullivan (Emily ?) (?)
80. Mrs. Henry George Surman (Mabel Annie Bird) (?)
81. Mrs. A.R. Taylor (Annie S. Johnson) (?)
82. Mrs. Ernest Thomas (Mary Hannah ?) (?)
83. Mrs. James Tierney (Mary ? ) (26)
84. Mrs. ? Trevanow (Caroline ? ) (?)
86. Mrs. John Francis Varcoe (Lavinia ? ) (?)
87. Mrs. John Walker (Gertrude ? ) (26)
88. Mrs. Frederick G. Webster (Margaret ? ) (?)
89. Mrs. ? Wickham (Nina ? ) (50)
90. Mrs. ? Williams (Jane ? ) (?)
91. Mrs. E.V. Woolden (Nellie ? ) (?)
92. Mrs. Charles Worden (Jane Goodchild) (?)
93. Mrs. ? Wylie (Emma ? ) (?)
94. Mrs. Charles Yeatman (Cora ? ) (37)
Third class:
Saved
1. Mrs. ? Antila (Amoo ? ) (?)
3. Mrs. ? Duckworth (Elizabeth A. ? ) (52)
4. Mrs. ? Duncan (Kate Cassie ? ) (43)
6. Mrs. John Henry (Catherine ? ) (24)
7. Mrs. ? Howley (Rose ? )(42)
8. Mrs. James Logan (Ruth ? ) (27)
9. Mrs. Thomas Marsh (Annie ? ) (26)
10. Mrs. ? Marshall (Fannie ? ) (35)
11. Mrs. ? Martin (Laura ? ) (56)
12. Mrs. ? Moses (Janet ? )(42)
13. Mrs. Edward Riley (Annie ? ) (29)
14. Mrs. Samuel Sharpe (Mary Jane ?) (53)
15. Mrs. Harold Smethurst (Alice ? ) (24)
16. Mrs. ? Spendley (Kate ? ) (28)
17. Mrs. Harold Taylor (Lucy ? ) (19)
19. Mrs. George Ward (Ellen ? ) (43)
Died
1. Mrs. Thomas W. Agnew (? ?)(27)
2. Mrs. ? Andersdotter (Carolina B. ? ) (54)
3. Mrs. Donald Barrow (May ? ) (20)
4. Mrs. George Bartley (Ellen ? ) (28)
5. Mrs. Joseph Bishop (Alice ? ) (49)
6. Mrs. ? Blackshaw (Alice ? )(29)
7. Mrs. Thomas Bodell (Florence ? ) (36)
8. Mrs. ? Cooper (Nellie Elizabeth ? ) (33)
9. Mrs. Thomas Dhenin (Evelyn ? ) (33)
11. Mrs. ? Feeley (Teresa ? ) (34)
12. Mrs. James Ferguson (Mary Agnes ? ) (23)
13. Mrs. John Ferrick (Margaret ? ) (22)
14. Mrs. Joseph Frankum (Annie Mariah B. ? ) (36)
15. Mrs. William Goodhall (Beatrice ? ) (33)
16. Mrs. Charles Hamus (Mary ? ) (37)
17. Mrs. Robert Hebden (Clara ? ) (27)
21. Mrs. ? Marks (Elizabeth Brock) (50)
22. Mrs. James Murray (Margaret ? ) (26)
23. Mrs. ? Murray (Mary ? ) (?)
24. Mrs. ? Reid (Ellen ? ) (26)
25. Mrs. George Robshaw (Edith ? ) (26)
26. Mrs. Arthur Scott (Alice Ann ? ) (29)
27. Mrs. James Self (Florence ?) (30)
28. Mrs. Private W. Smith (Minnie ? ) (28)
29. Mrs. Joseph Thompson (Sarah Ann ? ) (40)
30. Mrs. ? Topping (Margaret ? )(40)
31. Mrs. ? Travers (Jane ? ) (30)
32. Mrs. ? Wardle (Cissie ? ) (22)
33. Mrs. ? Watson (Kate ? ) (?)
34. Mrs. William Webb (Sarah ? ) (32)
35. Mrs. ? Webb (Elizabeth ? ) (69)
37. Mrs. William Wilson (Emily ? )
38. Mrs. Charles Young (Elizabeth ? ) (27)
Crew
Saved:
1. Mrs. M. Leitch
2. Mrs. Margaret Craigie (40)
3. Mrs. Elizabeth Dewhurst (Elizabeth Ross Morris)
4. Mrs. Margaret Hull
5. Mrs. Fanny Morecroft
Died:
1. Mrs. Anna Enderson (45)
2. Mrs. Karen Jorgenson (35)
3. Mrs. Margaret E. Faulkes (Margaret E. Hughes) (42)
4. Mrs. Jane Ellen Howdle (Jane Ellen Hughes) (33)
5. Mrs. Margaret Weir (51)
Regards,
Hildo
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Hildo Thiel
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Post Number: 483
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Monday, February 24, 2003 - 11:10 am: |
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Hello
I found the last information about 81. Mrs. A.R. Taylor (Annie S. Johnson)on the Ellis Island Site, she was 41 and her full name was Annie Sarah, she traveled with her 14 year old son, who survived.
I found a age for Mrs. Constance Stroud, 31.
And a possible maiden name for Mrs. Christina Stewart. Knox, based on the fact that the second name of her infant son John was Knox.
Regards,
Hildo |
Mauricio Andino-Lord
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Username: mauricio
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Dear Friends: I am seeking Morton brother´s history. May be they rescued a 3 yrs girl Ellen. She was adopted by Dora Morton, a young lady married with salvadorean Arturo Araujo. This man was President of El Salvador by 1931. Ellen (Hellen)dissapeared after a coup d´ etat that year.Her salvadorean family is seeking her or relatives.
Mauricio Andino-Lord(primex@telesal.net) |
Joan Mitchner Foster
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Username: gardenridge
Post Number: 1
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 21, 2005 - 1:30 am: |
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Hello, I'm a relative of Percy Hefford, Second Officer on the Lusitania. Photo on my web page of the Nevanas family if you would like to see that. http://members.shaw.ca/joanf/Nevanas.html He had recently married Elsie Nevanas, a sister of my grandmother's.
Any other info about him would be appreciated. Thank you. |
Gail Gaston
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Post Number: 3
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 1:09 pm: |
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Hello, This is my first post. I appreciate the hard work everyone involved is putting forth to keep up a spectacular message board.
My Mother's Aunt, along with her husband and 2 children perished on the Lusitania. We believe her name to be Florence, but cannot confirm her married name. After reviewing the Passenger List from the book "The Lusitainia Story" we believe her name to be Florence Burley, along with her husband Rueben and children Doris and Reginald. She was identified by a ring she was wearing by a family member by the name of "LEE". My question to anyone would be: Is it possible review a "victims identification Log"? If Florence Burley was identified by a ring or by the Lee family, this would prove our Aunt to be the Florence Burley and her family named on your passenger list. Any information anyone might have would be very helpful for closure for our family members. Thank you in advance for your time, Gail Gaston, Uxbridge, ON |
Jim Kalafus
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Post Number: 2369
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 3:22 pm: |
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Hello, Gail: Cunard issued a Confidential Report some time after the disaster which DOES have a body ID log in it. Unidentified bodies are described, and in the cases of the identified bodies it tells where the victim was buried, (often) by whom it was identified, and where the recovered effects were forwarded. I have a copy of the report but will not have access to it for a few weeks, but if in the interem one of the other board members who has access to the report does not post the information I will at some point in March. |
Peter Kelly
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Username: pgk1
Post Number: 51
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 11:22 am: |
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Hi Gail,
Florence Burley was born Florence Bull, circa 1877, In Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancashire, the daughter, and second eldest child of John Henry and Elizabeth Bull. Her father was a fruit and seed merchant, and the family resided at 182. Albemarle St., Ashton-under-Lyne, in 1881. The other children were Harry Farrer, Frederick Miller, and Percy. (1881 British Census).
Florence married Reuben Burley, who was born in Sheffield, England, circa 1876.
Reuben worked for the Great Central Railway in Ashton-under-Lyne until 1904, when he emigrated to Hamilton, Ontario, Canada, with his wife, where he found work as a machinist. The couple had two children, Doris F(lorence), born in 1906, and Reginald, born in 1914 or 1915.
In 1914, Florence's father died, and his widow, Elizabeth Bull, went to Hamilton to visit her daughter and grandchildren. She decided to return in the Spring of 1915, and Reuben and Florence decided to take their family over to England for a holiday, and accompany Elizabeth on the journey. They booked second cabin passage on the Lusitania.
All 5 lost their lives in the sinking.
The only body recovered and identified was that of Elizabeth Bull. She was body #78, and she was buried on 10th May in Common Grave C, second row, lower tier, in the Old Cemetery, Queenstown, where she still lies. her property, which I presume assisted identification, consisted of a gold necklace, five gold rings, a gold brooch, a pair of spectacles, a bunch of keys, a cheque drawn on the Bank of Hamilton for £51-17s-1d, 21 British 10 schilling notes, 10 schillings in gold coinage, 13 schillings in silver coinage, three silver American coins, and some British copper coins, was forwarded to her son, F(rederick) M(iller) Bull, 28. Camp Street, Ashton-under-Lyne, on 4th June 1915. her daughter, Mrs. Meadows, residing at Summercoats, Derbyshire, England, set out for Queenstown after the sinking to try and identify her mother and the Burleys, and take any of those she found home for burial. However, she arrived too late for her mothers funeral, and was unable to locate any of the other bodies.
I hope this information assists you.
Regards,
Peter |
Gail Gaston
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Username: gaston
Post Number: 4
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 2:45 am: |
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Thank you so much for the information sent by Jim and Peter, your time is greatly appreciated. However, in your great effort, we have ruled out the above Florence Burley as our Aunt. The problem we are having in finding our Aunt is that we have no living brothers or sisters of Florence left with us, and my grandmother and great aunt were very young when being told the story of their Aunt Florence going down with the Lusitania. My grandmother and Aunt weren't born until the 30's. What my great Aunt knows is this: Only that my great grandmother Edna Lee had 4 brothers and sisters. Harry, Edith, Violet, and Florence last name LEE. We are not 100% sure of the Florence name but are quite sure. As it is rumored that Violet had a daughter and named her after an aunt who perished on the Lusitania and that daughter they named Florence. She was a passenger along with her husband and 2 small children, Doris and Reginald. (Although my grandmother says it was 2 girls!) The reason we wondered about Florence Burley originally, was through process of elimination through the passenger list in the book "The Lusitania Story". The story proceeds to go on by saying that she was identified by a LEE family member and by a ring. I do not know if the bodies of her husband or 2 children were identified. I suppose finding her married name somehow would be the only way of further investigation. Any suggestions on how to find out more on our Family Tree?
Any information would be really helpful. Thanks again to Jim and Peter for your knowledge and time. Gail |
Gail Gaston
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Username: gaston
Post Number: 5
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 4:12 am: |
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Hello,
I have just spent a few hours reading some of the posts in other sections and am afraid I am posting messages incorrectly (as my post is coming up as a new "thread" on the main board) Realizing that looking for someone is not as profound as others listed, I would imagine this is not the way my question should be posted. I am very new at computers and the whole message board avenue, but I noticed alot of people have questions about women of the Lusitania and perhaps if I can figure out who my aunt is, This will be one less query for you aswell.
With respect, will someone please let me know if I am not using correct technique or am possibly posting my query in the wrong manner?
Thank you Gail. |
Peter Kelly
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Username: pgk1
Post Number: 52
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 8:22 pm: |
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Hi gail,
Sorry that the information I posted was not of benefit to you.
Looking through the Cunard Confidentiality Report, the only reference I can find to any person with the name of LEE having anything to do with an identified body is in regard to Mrs. Clara Groves, body #166. Her property was forwarded to her father William H. Lee, 11. Langford Ave., Toronto. She was travelling with her husband, Sidney Groves, and her son, Frederick W., who was aged 18 months. All were lost, but only Clara's body recovered and identified. I do not have any list of her property.
There were a number of female passengers by the name of "Florence" on board the last voyage of the Lusitania, so maybe it is one of those.
If you want to contact me privately with family details that you do have, I can check around to see if I can narrow down the search a bit.
Regards,
Peter |
Lesley Bain
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Username: lesley
Post Number: 1
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 10:54 pm: |
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Hello
I really hope someone can help me
Its always been a story in my family that my great grandfather went down with the Lusitania.
I have searched the passenger lists and his name John Arthur Terry is not there
Is it possible he could've been a passenger as I understand the lists are not complete
Who would've registered his death as I could not find a death cert at the Family Records Centre
regards
Lesley |
Dee Haworth
Member
Username: dorothyhaworth
Post Number: 1
Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 3:45 am: |
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Hi I am trying to find details of Miss Margaret McClure who was lost on the Lusitania. She is the cousin of either my grandmother (or Gt Grandmother). I wish to know her age when she sailed. Does anyone have access to this or any additional information. Also how can I find out when she first sailed to America from leaving Scotland. Any pointers would be appreciated.. regards Dee |
Lester Mitcham
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Username: lester
Post Number: 1156
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 5:55 am: |
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Hello Dee,
No age is given for her on the PL at: http://www.rmslusitania.info/
When she sailed to America if she arrived in New York then she should be on the Ellis Island Records. Go to: http://www.ellisislandrecords.org/ - You can join or free. |
Zachary Schwarz
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Username: dvd5486
Post Number: 11
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 1, 2006 - 12:45 am: |
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I've been doing some research and I was wondering if anyone was familiar with the maiden names of these passengers.
For Margaret Brownlie I have either Wilson or McKeen.
For Laura Martin I have Trueman, Cooksley, or Bird.
Any help would be appreciated. |
Michael Poirier
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Username: mike_poirier
Post Number: 395
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 1, 2006 - 1:42 pm: |
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Laura Martin was Truman.
Clemency: We've been torpedoed! Oh, Mother! What shall we do?
Millicent: Get the jewelry.
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Zachary Schwarz
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Username: dvd5486
Post Number: 13
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 1, 2006 - 3:03 pm: |
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Thanks Mike! |
Zachary Schwarz
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Username: dvd5486
Post Number: 19
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 3:52 am: |
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Has anyone come across a passenger whose maiden name was Susan Coll. I found her on a genealogy website and it said that she died in the sinking.
Thanks! |
Geoff Whitfield
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Username: geoff
Post Number: 1092
Registered: 11-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 7:49 am: |
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Hi Zach,
Yes, I've seen that one too....I rather think it's one of those put down to erroneous family history!
Geoff |
Zachary Schwarz
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Username: dvd5486
Post Number: 20
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 3:02 pm: |
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Hi Geoff,
That makes sense. There was a note on her on the Lusitania Resource website too. I thought that she might be Mrs. Robert McKinnon.
Thanks!
Zach |
Cliff Mark Barry
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Username: cb139
Post Number: 72
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 4:06 pm: |
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Hi Zack,
there was a 2nd class passenger called Susan Coleman
Cliff |
Geoff Whitfield
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Username: geoff
Post Number: 1094
Registered: 11-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 4:19 pm: |
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Cliff,
She was a survivor though, although with some of these family history sites....that doesn't seem to make much difference!
Geoff |
Zachary Schwarz
Member
Username: dvd5486
Post Number: 21
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 12:26 am: |
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Curious...
Have the names of these passengers been discovered for Mrs. William Clayton, Mrs. Robert Duncan, Mrs. Robert McKinnon, or Mrs. Thomas Agnew?
Thanks! |
Zachary Schwarz
Member
Username: dvd5486
Post Number: 22
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 4:22 pm: |
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I found snippets of the Lusitania claims on google and I was wondering if anyone new the which spelling was correct-
Mrs. Annie McHardy or MacHardy
Mrs. Mary A. McKenzie or Mackenzie
Mrs. Margaret Kenny or Kenney
Miss Catherine or Katherine Waters
Mr. Sven Johanson or Johanssen
Thanks! |
Raymond Jones
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Username: ray928
Post Number: 1
Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Friday, January 5, 2007 - 3:25 pm: |
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I am trying to find information about my great uncle George Herbert Jones who is said to have died on the Lusitania although the name does not appear on any lists |
Jason D. Tiller
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Username: jtiller
Post Number: 3098
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Friday, January 5, 2007 - 4:27 pm: |
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Hello Raymond,
Welcome aboard. Since your great uncle does not appear on the Passenger list, chances are he was not on board at all. Or perhaps he was under an assumed name, or it was a family rumour; a lot of stories are started that way.
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