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Senan Molony
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Posted on Monday, May 16, 2005 - 6:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

As an addition to the Witherbee material in the Research Article 'Lest We Forget,' thought people might like to sample this documentation from the Mixed Claims Lusitania Cases.

Quite a cheeky claim involved here -




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Michael Poirier
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Post Number: 150
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Posted on Monday, May 16, 2005 - 6:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hello Senan
If you check out the article on Shelley's site-
www.revdma2.com/Rita.html
The court case you scanned was used extensively.
Mike
" God will get you for that Walter! "
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Senan Molony
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Posted on Monday, May 16, 2005 - 9:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Mike,

I have the whole lot. US Govt Document 53281 of 1925. Runs to over 620 pages, with some great reading.
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Jim Kalafus
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Posted on Monday, May 16, 2005 - 10:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Some great reading, true, but about a third of the file consists of letters of receipt, or actual receipts, and ran up the photocopy bill extensively :-)

I think of all the "Cheeky" cases in the US Mixed Claims Commission files, the Samoilescue attempt was by far the most over the top.
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Michael Poirier
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Post Number: 151
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Posted on Monday, May 16, 2005 - 10:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Senan
It all makes for good reading. Though some cases are merely lawyers letters, which is a shame.
I was glad to be able to send those pages to Lawrence Jolivet, before he passed away. Probably one of our bigger regrets is that the file did not have her birth certificate or an account of her Lusitania experiences. One of the things we'd like to investigate, as you read in the claims, is Trixie Witherbee's brief stage career. Perhaps it was summer stock, or maybe she sang in some sort of cabaret. Who knows? Hopefully someone will uncover the answer.
Thanks again for sharing the claim with the board. As I said, It makes great reading.
Mike
" God will get you for that Walter! "
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Jim Kalafus
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Posted on Monday, May 16, 2005 - 11:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

BTW- The 'exhibits' referred to in the files but not present were returned to Beatrice and, at some point between the late 1920s and 1977 thrown out. According to her son, Beatrice was not a 'hoarder' and would periodically clean house. What has survived are the photos in our article and a painting done by her mother, from which we determined the correct spelling of May Brown's maiden name.
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Jim Kalafus
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Posted on Monday, May 16, 2005 - 11:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

And here is a great profile of Beatrice's son, concentrating on his political career

www.teambc.ca/docs/Tribute.doc



Truly a nice gentleman.
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Senan Molony
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Post Number: 220
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Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 1:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I wasn't talking about the file, per se. The US Government printed all the cases in a compendium in 1925. (No receipts or acknowledgment bumpf).

They include the Sussex and various oil tanker cases.

My favourite try-on was the Irish guy, Ewart, who claimed to be carrying $7,500+ in CASH on the Lusitania because he had experienced a bank failure in Brooklyn in 1907 and wouldn't trust them again...

He didn't even supply the name of the bank. Unsurprisingly the case was slung out.
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Michael Poirier
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Post Number: 152
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Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 2:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yes, those cases are filled with wonderful things. Probably some of the more amusing are the ones where survivors or victim's relatives tried to reduce the claims of the lawyers.
" God will get you for that Walter! "
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Senan Molony
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Post Number: 221
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Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 2:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I really wish there was an "Encyclopedia Lusitania"...

I sent lots of stuff to the other site, and it just never gets uploaded.

At least here you can do it yourself.

Pity, isn't it? Would be nice if it were a little corner of this site.
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Senan Molony
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Michael Poirier
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Post Number: 153
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Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 12:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well, perhaps if we ask Phil, maybe he'll whip us up one? What say you Phil?
" God will get you for that Walter! "
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