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Allie Flynn
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Username: pinkgirlzrock
Post Number: 1
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, August 4, 2005 - 4:40 am: | 
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I was just wondering if the classes mixed at all
I dont mean like in the titanic movie or anything but I would love to know!!! |
Dave Gittins
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Username: gittins
Post Number: 2247
Registered: 4-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, August 4, 2005 - 11:36 am: |
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No, they didn't. That's what they paid different fares for. Also, third class passengers were subject to Board of Trade regulations that prescribed where they could go.
Lawrence Beesley mentions the curious case of a man who travelled third class while his wife was in second class. They used to meet and talk at the barrier between classes. I've never worked out who this was. Any ideas? |
Lester Mitcham
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Username: lester
Post Number: 910
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, August 4, 2005 - 8:24 pm: |
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Hello Dave,
My guess is that the couple were Susan Webber and one of the Braund brothers. - There is an old thread on this. See under Searching; Keyword Search; Webber.
Hope you are keeping well.
Regards,
Lester |
Bob Godfrey
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Username: bobgod1
Post Number: 2428
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Friday, August 5, 2005 - 12:19 am: |
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A strong possibility is Nils Johansson and his fiance, Olga Lundin. They had boarded together as 3rd Class passengers, but when Olga suffered badly from motion sickness Nils paid for an upgrade to a more comfortable cabin location for her in 2nd Class. His money wouldn't stretch to an upgrade for himself also. |
Lester Mitcham
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Username: lester
Post Number: 912
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Friday, August 5, 2005 - 12:29 am: |
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I doubt that upgrade. |
Noel F.Jones
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Username: ver1tas
Post Number: 577
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Friday, August 5, 2005 - 2:16 am: |
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Then there's that tale of the lottery winner who was invited to dine at the captain's table.
His response was "What? - pay all this money and eat with the crew? Not bloody likely".
Noel |
Michael H. Standart
Moderator
Username: mstandart
Post Number: 12574
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Friday, August 5, 2005 - 6:04 am: |
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I don't know anything about upgrades or whether or not that would have been done, but Miss Olga Lundin is listed as a 2cnd Class passenger who boarded in Southampton as such while Nils Johansson is listed as a 3rd Class passenger. She survived.
He didn't.
Cordially,
Michael H. Standart
Equal Opportunity Curmudgeon
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Lester Mitcham
Member
Username: lester
Post Number: 914
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Friday, August 5, 2005 - 7:57 am: |
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Michael,
It is my understanding that Olga shows on this web-site as a 2nd Class passenger because Hermann accepts that she upgraded from 3rd Class and shows her as such on his PL which is the basis for E-T's PL. - In conflict with Olga's Person Summary her E-T biography confirms that Olga boarded as a 3rd Class passenger. - She paid the same fare as that paid by Nils Johansson [a 3rd Class fare].
All WS records list Olga as 3rd Class and she is also on the Carpathia Lists [that is the lists of Titanic survivors] as 3rd Class. |
Roy Kristiansen
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Username: whh
Post Number: 408
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2005 - 11:18 pm: |
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>>I was just wondering if the classes mixed at all
Not as a rule. But every once in a while, some adventuresome 1st- or 2nd-class passenger would find his/her way below decks. It was a form of "slumming" for people looking for a "good time," much the way Rose did in the movie. It wasn't encouraged, and it certainly didn't work the other way, but it happened. My great aunt did it as a young woman on her way over here from Scotland. Scotland the Brave!
I've run this question by Don Lynch and Rick Archbold, and I'm told Maxtone-Graham writes about it as well.
Roy |
Michael H. Standart
Moderator
Username: mstandart
Post Number: 8808
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Friday, November 18, 2005 - 1:39 am: |
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>>and I'm told Maxtone-Graham writes about it as well.<<
Yep, he did. Can't give you a specific citation but that's where I first heard about it. While it wasn't encouraged, the impression I have is that it was something of a winked at practice.
Cordially,
Michael H. Standart
Equal Opportunity Curmudgeon
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Noel F.Jones
Member
Username: ver1tas
Post Number: 712
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Friday, November 18, 2005 - 3:27 am: |
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This reminds me of the nouveau-riche 'celebrity' who, upon being informed by the head waiter that he was invited to dine at the captain's table, expostulated "What? I'm not paying all this money just to eat with the crew".
Sorry about that.
Noel |
Steve Olguin
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Username: steveolguin
Post Number: 118
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Friday, November 18, 2005 - 7:29 am: |
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There is a children's novel that I read in which the fictional character's mother was doing just this -- she was a second class passenger (who would have been traveling first class on another ship) who happened to befriend a woman in steerage. Well, on the night of April 14th, she was down visiting her friend and ended up getting locked behind a gate. Fictional story, but I am curious as to if this may have happened at all.
Steve
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Noel F.Jones
Member
Username: ver1tas
Post Number: 714
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Friday, November 18, 2005 - 1:50 pm: |
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Steve,
Such a barrier would have a key either side in a glass-fronted cabinet - 'break glass in an emergency'.
And nobody gets locked down; there are always stairways. Aspire upwards and you will find freedom.
Noel |
Roy Kristiansen
Member
Username: whh
Post Number: 411
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Friday, November 18, 2005 - 8:59 pm: |
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And Noel, hasn't it been shown that most (!) of the gates on Titanic were of the waist-high variety? Not the full-height ones shown in the movie, although there were a few of those? In an "orderly" society, there's no need to play rough.
In my experience during the 60s, riding the train between Seattle and Chicago, simple gates were all that separated the Pullman passengers from the coach passengers. They were there mostly as a reminder and I never witnessed any problems.
Roy |
