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Joćo Carlos Pereira Martins
Member Username: keen_on_titanic
Post Number: 52 Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 2:49 pm: |
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Sorry if somebody had already done this question, but I would like to know where was the water at 0.45? Have it already reached boiler room No4? And at what time did the water start to enter into the Dining Saloon? I think you'll help me in this issue. Best regards, Joćo |
   
Joćo Carlos Pereira Martins
Member Username: keen_on_titanic
Post Number: 53 Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 3:46 pm: |
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I know from Colonel Gracie's biography that a short time after midnight water started pooring in the squash court. I suppose that by 0.30 the turkish baths were partially flooded. Many third class passengers reported they saw water entering their rooms little after 0.15 and a lot of seamen stated that the icy waters flooded their quarters by 0.20. Can anybody help me with the previous questions? |
   
Joćo Carlos Pereira Martins
Member Username: keen_on_titanic
Post Number: 59 Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 12:17 am: |
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Anybody can help me, please? I'm really needed that information. |
   
Samuel Halpern
Member Username: cmdrsam
Post Number: 1182 Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 2:48 am: |
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Joćo: The best I can do right now is to direct you to the British Inquiry Report here: http://www.titanicinquiry.org/BOTInq/BOTReport/BOTRep01.html. Then go to the links under ANNEX TO THE REPORT 3. DESCRIPTION OF THE DAMAGE TO THE SHIP AND OF ITS GRADUAL AND FINAL EFFECT, WITH OBSERVATIONS THEREON Extent of the Damage Time in which the Damage was done The Flooding in the first 10 Minutes Gradual Effect of the Damage Final Effect of the Damage Observations Effect of Additional Subdivision upon floatation You may find what you are looking for there. There are no Unsinkable Theories. Sam Halpern 40° 23' 50'' N, 74° 13' 55'' W.
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Joćo Carlos Pereira Martins
Member Username: keen_on_titanic
Post Number: 149 Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, July 8, 2006 - 1:31 am: |
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It may be a stupid question or commentary, but when the water started pouring on the A-deck cabins, were there any first class passengers? Well, supposing that the windows did not break, so how the water reached them? By the Grand Staircase flooding? Regards, Joćo |
   
Michael H. Standart
Moderator Username: mstandart
Post Number: 10459 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Saturday, July 8, 2006 - 4:01 am: |
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Unless somebody deliberately chose to stay down below decks, by this point in time most if not all of the 1st cabin was well out of there. It's not as if there was any real point in remaining there. Not that there were a lot of other options... Cordially, Michael H. Standart Equal Opportunity Curmudgeon
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Manuel Reiprich
Member Username: manuel
Post Number: 80 Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Monday, October 2, 2006 - 4:22 pm: |
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I remember reading in Walter Lords "A Night to remember": At 0.45. A.M. the turkish bath was dry, but shortly later, the water reached also this area. I remember, somebody reached this area at 0.45. and noticed water streaming a little from e-deck (scotland road) the staircase down to turkish bath. So i guess, at 0.45.A.M., water just reached the e-deck area above the turkish bath. |
   
Samuel Halpern
Member Username: cmdrsam
Post Number: 1343 Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 3, 2006 - 4:51 pm: |
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Hi Manuel. The person was Steward Joseph Wheat. The time seems to fit the situation quite well. About 0:45 the ship was down by the head between 3 to 4 degrees. The water would have been finding its way aft on deck E there being no watertight bulkheads to block it in that part of the ship. On deck F below, the water would have been held back by bulkhead F just forward of the Turkish bath space. There are no Unsinkable Theories. Sam Halpern 40° 23' 50'' N, 74° 13' 55'' W.
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Trevor William Sturdy
Member Username: trev
Post Number: 64 Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 4, 2006 - 1:26 pm: |
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Hi Sam/Manuel, I dont think I am breaking any copyright issues by providing the following link- it is a brilliant presentation which I go back to often to clarify points in relation to the sinking - my compliments to the author... http://home.comcast.net/~bwormst7/Symposium/flooding2.html Amateurs built the Ark - Professionals built Titanic.
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Charles B. Weeks Jr.
Member Username: charles_weeks
Post Number: 209 Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, October 5, 2006 - 1:18 am: |
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Trevor: Thank you for the complement. All I did was make drawings to illustrate what people said they saw and when they claimed to have seen it. I'm now using information from it to look into the calculations of flooding rate. Regards, Charlie Weeks |