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Joćo Carlos Pereira Martins
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Username: keen_on_titanic

Post Number: 52
Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 2:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sorry if somebody had already done this question, but I would like to know where was the water at 0.45? Have it already reached boiler room No4? And at what time did the water start to enter into the Dining Saloon? I think you'll help me in this issue.

Best regards, Joćo
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Joćo Carlos Pereira Martins
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Username: keen_on_titanic

Post Number: 53
Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 3:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I know from Colonel Gracie's biography that a short time after midnight water started pooring in the squash court. I suppose that by 0.30 the turkish baths were partially flooded. Many third class passengers reported they saw water entering their rooms little after 0.15 and a lot of seamen stated that the icy waters flooded their quarters by 0.20. Can anybody help me with the previous questions?
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Joćo Carlos Pereira Martins
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Username: keen_on_titanic

Post Number: 59
Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 12:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Anybody can help me, please? I'm really needed that information.
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Samuel Halpern
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Username: cmdrsam

Post Number: 1182
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 2:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Joćo: The best I can do right now is to direct you to the British Inquiry Report here: http://www.titanicinquiry.org/BOTInq/BOTReport/BOTRep01.html. Then go to the links under
ANNEX TO THE REPORT

3. DESCRIPTION OF THE DAMAGE TO THE SHIP AND OF ITS GRADUAL AND FINAL EFFECT, WITH OBSERVATIONS THEREON
Extent of the Damage
Time in which the Damage was done
The Flooding in the first 10 Minutes
Gradual Effect of the Damage
Final Effect of the Damage
Observations
Effect of Additional Subdivision upon floatation


You may find what you are looking for there.
There are no Unsinkable Theories.
Sam Halpern
40° 23' 50'' N, 74° 13' 55'' W.
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Joćo Carlos Pereira Martins
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Username: keen_on_titanic

Post Number: 149
Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Saturday, July 8, 2006 - 1:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It may be a stupid question or commentary, but when the water started pouring on the A-deck cabins, were there any first class passengers? Well, supposing that the windows did not break, so how the water reached them? By the Grand Staircase flooding?

Regards, Joćo
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Michael H. Standart
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Username: mstandart

Post Number: 10459
Registered: 12-2000
Posted on Saturday, July 8, 2006 - 4:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Unless somebody deliberately chose to stay down below decks, by this point in time most if not all of the 1st cabin was well out of there. It's not as if there was any real point in remaining there.

Not that there were a lot of other options...
Cordially,
Michael H. Standart
Equal Opportunity Curmudgeon
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Manuel Reiprich
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Post Number: 80
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Monday, October 2, 2006 - 4:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I remember reading in Walter Lords "A Night to remember":
At 0.45. A.M. the turkish bath was dry, but shortly later, the water reached also this area.

I remember, somebody reached this area at 0.45. and noticed water streaming a little from e-deck (scotland road) the staircase down to turkish bath.
So i guess, at 0.45.A.M., water just reached the e-deck area above the turkish bath.
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Samuel Halpern
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Username: cmdrsam

Post Number: 1343
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Tuesday, October 3, 2006 - 4:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Manuel. The person was Steward Joseph Wheat. The time seems to fit the situation quite well. About 0:45 the ship was down by the head between 3 to 4 degrees. The water would have been finding its way aft on deck E there being no watertight bulkheads to block it in that part of the ship. On deck F below, the water would have been held back by bulkhead F just forward of the Turkish bath space.
There are no Unsinkable Theories.
Sam Halpern
40° 23' 50'' N, 74° 13' 55'' W.
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Trevor William Sturdy
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Post Number: 64
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Wednesday, October 4, 2006 - 1:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Sam/Manuel,
I dont think I am breaking any copyright issues by providing the following link- it is a brilliant presentation which I go back to often to clarify points in relation to the sinking - my compliments to the author...

http://home.comcast.net/~bwormst7/Symposium/flooding2.html
Amateurs built the Ark - Professionals built Titanic.
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Charles B. Weeks Jr.
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Username: charles_weeks

Post Number: 209
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Thursday, October 5, 2006 - 1:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Trevor:
Thank you for the complement. All I did was make drawings to illustrate what people said they saw and when they claimed to have seen it. I'm now using information from it to look into the calculations of flooding rate.
Regards,
Charlie Weeks
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