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matthew ewing
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Username: venom637
Post Number: 56
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Monday, October 31, 2005 - 5:06 am: | 
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actually michael, they did hit the dummy ships, he got an honerable discharge, cause he said terrorist could do it. about the bulkheads, if you think about it,they probably inploded long before it settled on the ground. I think that the water pressure, on the air-filled ones would have proved to be more than the ship's compartments could handle very quickly. but, i guess we'll never know for sure. |
Michael H. Standart
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Username: mstandart
Post Number: 13319
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Monday, October 31, 2005 - 10:42 am: |
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>>actually michael, they did hit the dummy ships,<<
Whew...okay...good to hear that.
>>about the bulkheads, if you think about it,they probably inploded long before it settled on the ground.<<
If you check the inquiry transcripts, you'll note that a numbr of survivors described hearing explosions after the stern section finally disappeared. While some speculated that these may have been boiler explosions, these events far more likely were the remaining air filled compartments imploding.
Cordially,
Michael H. Standart
Equal Opportunity Curmudgeon
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Roy Kristiansen
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Username: whh
Post Number: 386
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Monday, October 31, 2005 - 8:06 pm: |
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>>If you check the inquiry transcripts, you'll note that a numbr of survivors described hearing explosions after the stern section finally disappeared.
Hi, Michael!
I'm glad someone (you) finally mentioned that. Muffled "explosions" from beneath the surface, but not the sort they expected to hear. That is to say, not boilers.
Roy |
matthew ewing
Member
Username: venom637
Post Number: 57
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 1, 2005 - 6:01 am: |
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I just said what he said, he just changed it. I didn't say anything about the boilers. Like I said, the rooms would have imploded, mainly do to the pressures of being that deep. what brought up the boilers, I think those things would have went out before the back ever took the final plunge, unless they had a magic flame. lol. But if you think about it, the boilers would have more than likely warped. reason: boilers are very hot, the water was cold, this would have cooled the boilers off very rapidly, therefore warping the metal it was made of. So either way, explosion or warping, the boilers would have been useless. Wow! I actually said something that made since. clap for me. |
Michael H. Standart
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Username: mstandart
Post Number: 13328
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 1, 2005 - 10:33 am: |
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Matthew, if you take a look at photos of the boilers taken in the debris field and also in that open section of Boiler Room Two you'll notice that the boilers aren't really warped. The front sections are pressed in a bit on some of them but not much. Some of the boilers in the debris field probably rained out from Boiler Room One when that section of the ship disintigrated. As these were probably not on line when the ship sank, they may not make a useful benchmark, however, the boilers in BR#2 were on line and were likely the very last to be snuffed out. (As in when they were swamped by flood waters.) They show no signs of being warped at all.
The reason for this is because the tubes themselves above the firebox would have been full of water. This is what combustion gasses flowed over to produce steam. The rest would have flooded naturally once the sea came in through the furnaces.
Cordially,
Michael H. Standart
Equal Opportunity Curmudgeon
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Samuel Halpern
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Username: cmdrsam
Post Number: 783
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 1, 2005 - 4:41 pm: |
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Matthew: You may want to see this reference site, http://titanic-model.com/articles/tech/TechFeatureAugust2005.htm, for an excellent discussion of the boilers and the work of the firemen and trimmers on the Titanic.
There are no Unsinkable Theories.
Sam Halpern
40° 23' 50'' N, 74° 13' 55'' W.
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matthew ewing
Member
Username: venom637
Post Number: 58
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 2, 2005 - 4:43 am: |
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It was just an idea i had. being made of the metals that they were, I would have figured the ones that were on would have warped a little. so much for the clap for me statement. |
Michael H. Standart
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Username: mstandart
Post Number: 13331
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 2, 2005 - 5:09 am: |
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>>It was just an idea i had. being made of the metals that they were, <<
Ach...no need to beat yourself up. There is *some* damage evident with the boilers as I mentioned above, but just not all that much. The things were full of water and they were built pretty ruggedly. They had to be in order to keep the genie of live steam contained.
Cordially,
Michael H. Standart
Equal Opportunity Curmudgeon
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Stanley Gordon Simpson
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Username: viller65
Post Number: 2
Registered: 12-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 1:02 pm: |
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REF A COMMENT ABOVE.
>>>>>>>> About the bulkheads. If you think about it, they probably imploded. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
The bulkheads were open at the top, and the watertight doors had been left open to allow engineers to access the bilge pump manifolds.
An air space has to be watertight to either implode or explode. GORDON. |
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