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Phillip Gowan
| | Posted on Saturday, May 13, 2000 - 6:57 pm: | 
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I finally have details (for anyone in the United States) as to how to order copies of the just released book "THE IRISH ABOARD THE TITANIC" by Senan Molony--and avoid the international shipping costs from Ireland. If you want details contact me privately at:
habanero17@yahoo.com |
Graeme Murphy
| | Posted on Monday, May 15, 2000 - 7:58 am: |
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Hi Phillip
I live in Ireland and I have been looking forward to Senan's book since I heard of its release a few months back. Problem is, today is meant to be the publication date (as far as I know) and no book stores here seem to have heard of it or appear to be getting it in stock! Do you have any details of an ISBN number?
Sincerely
Graeme Murphy |
Phillip Gowan
| | Posted on Monday, May 15, 2000 - 1:43 pm: |
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Hi Graeme,
General availability in Irish bookstores is supposed to be this coming Friday, May 19th. Contact me privately and I'll give you more details.
habanero17@yahoo.com
Thanks,
Phillip |
Senan Molony
| | Posted on Monday, May 15, 2000 - 8:18 pm: |
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Graeme, hello:
The book will be widely available from this weekend, beginning May 19 next.
The ISBN is 0-86327-805-1.
Only advance copies have hitherto been available.
It will set you back a penny off 17 of our useless, Euro-linked lousy Punts. Should you choose to buy of course.
I think you'll get a lot of reading (and 95 pix) if you do opt to part with that amount.
Regards,
Senan |
Graeme Murphy
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2000 - 7:54 am: |
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Dear Senan
Of course I will be buying your book! I've waited too long now not to buy it! I take the advance copies you mentioned are for collaborators, etc?
Well, my best luck to you; I am sure I won't be disappointed on Friday.
Sincerely
Graeme |
Eamonn Bradley
| | Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2000 - 9:13 pm: |
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Hello Senan
Is the Irish book available up in Belfast from May 19?
Sincerely
Eamonn Bradley |
Neil Beggs
| | Posted on Friday, May 19, 2000 - 11:10 am: |
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Hi all.
It seems that it is all Irish people seeming to be on the message board here at the minute in anticipation of the Irish book's release.
I am no exception to everybody else here who can't wait to get a copy of the book but, at the moment, it seems I won't be! I don't know if anybody else has encountered the problems I have in trying to obtain a copy. I have been to countless stores around Co Antrim and Co Down enquiring about the book. None of them have heard of the book or have any forthcoming publications of that description on their files. I just keep getting the same reply -- 'come back next month'.
What's the craic? Should I go straight to the top and order a copy from Wolfhound directly?
Good luck, Senan
Neil Beggs, County Down |
Elaine Barnes
| | Posted on Friday, May 19, 2000 - 1:57 pm: |
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Hi Senan!
When you said that the book would be "widely available" on the 19th of May, does that also mean here in the U.S.?
Sincerely,
Elaine |
Phillip Gowan
| | Posted on Friday, May 19, 2000 - 6:28 pm: |
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Elaine,
The book will only be available in Ireland. Contact me privately and I'll give you info on getting a copy in the US without having to pay international postage.
habanero17@yahoo.com
Phillip Gowan |
Elaine Barnes
| | Posted on Saturday, May 20, 2000 - 4:28 pm: |
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Hi, Philip!
Thanks for the info. I'll be getting that right out to you.
Sincerely,
Elaine |
Senan Molony
| | Posted on Sunday, May 21, 2000 - 10:18 pm: |
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It ain't available in the US, but anyone in the world can order by emailing:
books@wolfhound.ie
and supplying things like credit card number, preferably valid and not that of some Ecuadorean diplomat, your name (for the FBI to arrest you in connection with diplomatic complaint), your address, your attorney's address etc...
They will charge a fluid price based on exchange rate on the day. Expect to pay $25 plus whatever the postage will be - and the book weighs three-quarters of a kilo, so be warned.
As for availability, keep the faith. It will get out to a store near you, I promise. Otherwise email wolfhound or ring them on 353-1-8740354.
First, and thus far only, editorial comment on "The Irish Aboard Titanic":
First editorial comment on the book was published today -
"The wealth of detail and sheer scope of research is staggering."
- Fiona Ryan, IRELAND ON SUNDAY
May 21, 2000 |
Inger Sheil
| | Posted on Sunday, June 4, 2000 - 12:08 pm: |
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Now that the make-a-quick-buck books from the movie have fallen by the wayside, and trash such as Gardiner's The Ship that Never Sank is rotting in bargain bins, we're starting to see the gems emerge - titles like those we saw pre-movie, and which were swamped by the slim, superficial titles in the wake of the Cameron movie. There were some, like Belfast's Own, which bucked the trend, the existence of which gave hope that better titles might be on the way.
A few days ago, a title arrived in my post that has held me completely enthralled as no other has in recent memory. This is a milestone work, and is to be begged, borrowed or stolen at all costs. The Irish Aboard the Titanic, ISBN#0-86327-805-1. There aren't too many copies outside Ireland at the moment, but that looks set to change as the talk is already of a second edition.
Malony breathes life into names that are familiar, and perhaps overfamiliar, to those who cut their teeth on books such as ANTR - Gilnagh, Mullens, Farrell, Buckley. The same material has been repeated ever since, and the edge has been worn off into a smooth blandness. TIATI restores that razor keen edge to their experiences.
More than that, the other names on the crew and passenger lists, have once again had their individuality restored. What ET does on the net for passengers, Malony does in print for this identifiable group aboard the ship. The best works emerging are those which concentrate on a specific area or group, and this is one of them.
It works as a sociolgocial study, a look at how groups react in crisis, an examination of factors such as race, religion and gender. It also works as a superb biographical cross section of an age.
Malony's style is clear, concise, sharply perceptive and terribly poignant. No wailing and gnashing of teeth, but a beautifully dignified and elegant tribute (without being at all stylised) to those Irish aboard who lived, and those who died.
Highly recommended. |
Elaine Barnes
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2000 - 9:17 pm: |
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Hello, Everyone
I just finished "reading" TIAT, if you can call it that. This book, to me, was to be read slowly, so the different people don't blend together. With so many Kate's, Pat's and Bridgit's aboard, you can get confused as to who did what.
This is a book that I know I will be studying for a while to come.
I never realized just how many Irishmen and ladies there were aboard and how many perished!
Thank you, Mr. Malony for a wonderful book!
Sincerely Yours,
Elaine Barnes |
allison woods
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2000 - 1:20 am: |
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I haven't heard of this so can u tell me where i can get a copy and how much will it cost. |
MARKBRAY
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2000 - 4:13 pm: |
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THE BOOK IS FOR SALE ON AMAZON.COM AND ON BARNES & NOBLES.COM. I DO NOT KNOW HOW MUCH IT COSTS ON AMAZON.COM, BUT ON B&N IT COSTS $15.99...SO THE PRICE IS PROBABLY THE SAME ON AMAZON. ALSO, WHEN YOU GO TO THE MAIN PAGE OF ENCYCLOPEDIA TITANICA THERE IS INFORMATION THERE.
MARK |
Mike Herbold
| | Posted on Monday, July 17, 2000 - 10:42 am: |
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Molony's excellent Irish perspective continues the trend started by Alan Hustak (Canadians) and Per Christan Sebak (Norwegians) in well-researched books with a particular ethnic focus. It's refreshing to learn something new about so many passengers on the Titanic. After reading this book for the first time, I now intend to go back through it very slowly with notebook in hand for a second reading. |
Joe Shomi
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 13, 2000 - 6:42 pm: |
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Does anyone know if Senan's book has much in it about the Irish woman Anna Kelly? She seems to have been severely traumatized by the disaster, and purportedly became a nun . . . I'm curious whether she might be a candidate for addition to the "Survivors' Suicide" conversation. |
Phillip Gowan
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 13, 2000 - 7:37 pm: |
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Joe,
There is a good chapter about her with a photo in nun's habit from her later years. I corresponded with members of her family in Illinois who did not indicate that she showed many outward manifestations resulting from the ordeal. There was a "Daniel Kelly" who left several messages on ET sometime ago claiming to be her great-nephew and stating that she would never talk about the Titanic because she was so traumatized. However, her niece advised me that there is no such relative in the family and after an initial contact with me, he stopped responding. Her niece disputed "Daniel's" allegations saying that her aunt was a very happy woman in later years.
Phillip |
Mike Herbold
| | Posted on Saturday, September 30, 2000 - 9:33 am: |
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Senan Molony will be happy to know that his book is already a good investment. eBay # 452-773-192 offering one copy of "The Irish Aboard Titanic" is already up to $38.50 with a week to go yet. It's advertised as "Not Available in U.S." My copy autographed by Senan and Phil Gowan must be worth a small fortune already. |
Maureen Zottoli
| | Posted on Saturday, September 30, 2000 - 7:08 pm: |
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I am so happy for Senan, but it does make it hard for folks picking up books ot try to learn. But I have heard nothing but praise for Senan's work. Kudos Senan! Maureen. |
Tracy Smith
| | Posted on Saturday, March 31, 2001 - 3:10 am: |
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Senan, I've had the chance to read your book, and I've enjoyed it immensely.
This book is a labor of love, backed up by extensive, solid research. The writing flows smoothly and kept my attention throughout.
You made those old black-and-white photos come alive in vivid color with your writing.
Please tell us that you have another book in the works! |
Michael Tennaro
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 4, 2001 - 4:36 pm: |
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hello all,
just this morning I received the news that the second printing of Senan's book is finally almost finished. according to the publisher, copies should be available for ordering by the middle of next week.
the price of the book is IR17.99 pounds, which if I did my math right is about $19.97 American.
as far as I know, the book is only available directly from the publisher at this time. whether it will be available on the larger booksites like Amazon.com UK, or if it will be available here in the U.S. at all is unclear.
I tried for a half hour to create a direct link to Senan's book on Wolfhound Press' website, but just couldn't get it to work right for some reason. to see the listing, copy and paste the following address into your browser's 'location' line, and you should get there:
http://www.wolfhound.ie/editor's.htm
all the best, Michael (TheManInBlack) T
http://www.titanicbooksite.com |
Michael Tennaro
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 4, 2001 - 6:19 pm: |
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Hello again,
just a quick note to say that if you are not sure how to get to Wolfhound Press' website from the above message, please do the following.
I was able to create an active link directly to Senan's book through my website. goto:
http://www.titanicbooksite.com
and click on the New Book Alerts page.
hope this helps
Michael (TheManInBlack) T
http://www.titanicbooksite.com |
Maureen Zottoli
| | Posted on Thursday, April 5, 2001 - 12:10 am: |
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Thanks so much Mike! We are very lucky to have you as a regular poster on this board!
Maureen. |
Jason D. Tiller
| | Posted on Thursday, April 5, 2001 - 3:17 am: |
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Thank you very much Michael!
Best regards,
Jason  |
Michael Tennaro
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2001 - 2:24 am: |
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my pleasure!
also, while I am thinking about it, for those of you who asked if this book is ever going to be available here in the U.S. - the answer is yes. according to the publisher there will be an edition in America, but probably not till this fall. I don't have any definite word yet on who will be carrying it once it finally does get to our shores.
when I find out, I will post a note here.
Michael (TheManInBlack) T
http://www.titanicbooksite.com |
Andrew Joseph-Marcel Maheux
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2001 - 8:16 pm: |
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I can't seem to find this book anywhere.
can anyone help me?
Thanks
Andrew |
Philip Hind
| | Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2001 - 9:51 am: |
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Did you follow those website links above?
The Irish Aboard the Titanic - by Senan Molony
ISBN: 0 86327 805 1
PB £15.99
226 pages 245 x174mm 100 B&W photos
Ordering Information |
Brandon Whited
Member
Username: andrews
Post Number: 827
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 19, 2002 - 1:47 am: |
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Hello everyone,
I ordered four Titanic books from Amazon.com this evening to add to my rather pitiful collection. I will finally have Triumph and Tragedy, but the book I am really looking forward to is Irish Aboard Titanic.
What I was wondering is whether or not it can be compared to Alan Hustak's book on the Canadian passengers? I also have it, and I loved it. I would like to know if the two are similar in the amount of information they give on each passenger, the number of passengers featured in the book, etc. Do you feel Molony's book is more informative than Hustak's? Thanks in advance to any information and opinions.
Cheers,
-B.W.
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Michael H. Standart
Moderator
Username: mstandart
Post Number: 4883
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 19, 2002 - 6:42 am: |
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Brandon, I have "Irish Aboard Titanic" and it's a wonderful read. It's about as thorough as they come when dealing with the Irish passengers and crew who were on the ship.
Cordially,
Michael H. Standart
Equal Opportunity Curmudgeon
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Inger Sheil
Moderator
Username: isheil
Post Number: 1388
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 19, 2002 - 6:44 am: |
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I think you'll find Molony's book superlative, Brandon - not only in the information presented (of which there is a tremendous amount), but also in the quality of the writing. Hauntingly lyrical in certain passages, with touches of humour and observation so characteristic of the author. Insightful and informative, and also an utterly engaging read. I made the mistake of taking it into work with me when I first received my copy, and was so utterly engrossed I couldn't put it down. I can't remember the last time a Titanic tome so completely fascinated me. |
Fiona Nitschke
Moderator
Username: beckwith
Post Number: 322
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 19, 2002 - 1:04 pm: |
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Brandon,
FWIW, I'm in complete agreement with the above comments. The Irish Aboard Titanic is a marvellous book, well written, bristling with photos of passengers and crew, all of it backed up by solid research including use of Irish Census data and local contemporary newspaper accounts. In case it helps you further, Phil Gowan was the book's US based 'eyes and ears' and contributed critical research to the work.
As Inger wrote, the text is excellent - quite refreshing amongst some of the otherwise worthy Titanic books of recent (and not so recent) years. But this is not a triumph of style over content, as the content is most definitely there, with humour, pathos, outrage in the observations and presentation of the facts. Most importantly, the stories of the individuals are told as individual stories, as befits the memory of all those people. It's most definitely on a par with Alan Hustak's Titanic: The Canadian Story, and has more text and photos too.
Enjoy! |
Michael Tennaro
Member
Username: tennaro
Post Number: 311
Registered: 10-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 19, 2002 - 3:36 pm: |
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Brandon asked,
Do you feel Molony's book is more informative than Hustak's?
there really is no point in trying to compare and contrast Molony's book versus Hustak's. they both do a superlative job covering certain portions of Titanic's compliment, the Irish and the Canadians respectively. both books are invaluable for the wealth of information covered. both titles deserve a place in your growing library on the subject.
all the best, Michael (TheManInBlack) T |
Brandon Whited
Member
Username: andrews
Post Number: 828
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 19, 2002 - 10:01 pm: |
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Thank you all for your input. I am very much looking forward to reading this. I love the stories of the passengers; that's why I found Hustak's book so intriguing.
Cheers,
-B.W.
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Jason D. Tiller
Member
Username: jtiller
Post Number: 1117
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 20, 2002 - 10:39 pm: |
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Hi Brandon,
I totally agree with the above posts. Senan has a lot of good information about the Irish passengers in his book. I purchased my copy while I was in Ireland this past summer and it's a wonderful book.
Best regards,
Jason |
Brandon Whited
Member
Username: andrews
Post Number: 830
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 20, 2002 - 11:15 pm: |
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Thanks for your input, Jason. I can hardly wait!
Cheers,
-B.W.
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Jason D. Tiller
Member
Username: jtiller
Post Number: 1118
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 4:21 am: |
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You're welcome Brandon, my pleasure. You'll definitely enjoy it!
Best regards,
Jason |
Brandon Whited
Member
Username: andrews
Post Number: 870
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, November 30, 2002 - 3:28 pm: |
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My shipment of books arrived yesterday, and the first one I started reading was Molony's. It's more in-depth than I expected, and the pictures are really wonderful. I read about one hundred pages last night. I just love reading the stories of the passengers and crew.
This book will have a place in my bookcase for a long time to come!
Cheers,
-B.W.
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Iain Stuart Yardley
Member
Username: boz
Post Number: 303
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, November 30, 2002 - 5:44 pm: |
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I'm waiting for Waterstone's to say they have my copy any day now. Couldn't get Alan Hustak's book though as they say it's out of print.
Cheers,
Boz |
Tracy Smith
Member
Username: tracy
Post Number: 1204
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Saturday, November 30, 2002 - 6:06 pm: |
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Iain, try abebooks for the Hustak book. I checked over there yesterday for Timothy Brandsoy and there were several copies available.
http://www.abebooks.com/ |
Iain Stuart Yardley
Member
Username: boz
Post Number: 305
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, November 30, 2002 - 7:34 pm: |
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Ordered! Thanks Tracy. Thought I'd better order from the Massachussetts book shop as I may have ended up with a French version from Montreal.
Cheers,
Boz |
Brandon Whited
Member
Username: andrews
Post Number: 872
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, December 1, 2002 - 1:53 am: |
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Both books are must-haves. I'm glad to have them both in my collection. Enjoy, Iain!
Cheers,
-B.W.
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jean mullen
Member
Username: brandon
Post Number: 3
Registered: 4-2005
| | Posted on Monday, May 2, 2005 - 10:22 am: |
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I have just ordered Irish aboard the Titanic and from reading all the comments above I cant wait for it to arrive. thanks jm |
Lynda Franklin
Member
Username: lynn
Post Number: 49
Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 12:28 pm: |
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Senan's Irish book where to find it other than THS or ebay ? |
Michael Tennaro
Member
Username: tennaro
Post Number: 641
Registered: 10-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 3:07 pm: |
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Lynda, the best place to find any out of print book is either Bookfinder.com or AddAll.com/used:
www.bookfinder.com
http://www.addall.com/Used/
You can sort copies by price to easily find the best copy for the best price. These sites should be everyone's first stop, as they search almost all the other used sites, like Abe, Alibris, etc.
all the best, Michael (TheManInBlack) T
Forget eBay!
Titanic Book Site.com
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Lynda Franklin
Member
Username: lynn
Post Number: 50
Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 4:40 pm: |
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None of the sellers will help me if the book is out of print how are they going to ship it to me ? I will keep looking. |
Dave Gittins
Member
Username: gittins
Post Number: 2902
Registered: 4-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 11:33 am: |
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Lynda, Amazon's Canadian branch has it. It ships in 4-7 days.
I'm tempted to get a copy myself. It's far and away Senan's best work.
Dave Gittins
Titanic: Monument and Warning.
http://users.senet.com.au/~gittins/Book.html
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Lynda Franklin
Member
Username: lynn
Post Number: 52
Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 3:10 pm: |
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Well I ordered a copy through THS. |
Frank McElroy
Member
Username: frankie_mac
Post Number: 52
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 4:41 pm: |
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Lynda, Iv'e just looked on Amazon and they have loads, see for yourself... http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0863278051/026-3804775-7126814?v=glance&n=266239&v=glance they are priced at £16.99 + postage.
For books they are the best, I find.
Take care.
Frank McElroy
Family page: http://uk.geocities.com/frankiemcelroy/purser_mcelroy.html
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Lynda Franklin
Member
Username: lynn
Post Number: 53
Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 5:17 pm: |
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That's from the UK I am in the US I don't want to even think of how much it is in US dollars .But thanks. |
Frank McElroy
Member
Username: frankie_mac
Post Number: 53
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 5:29 pm: |
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Lynda, if you cannot get a copy, let me know I'll get a copy and post it to you, OK
Frank McElroy
Family page: http://uk.geocities.com/frankiemcelroy/purser_mcelroy.html
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Lynda Franklin
Member
Username: lynn
Post Number: 57
Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Friday, August 25, 2006 - 12:00 am: |
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Frank I just started reading your page on your relative thanks for sharing with us. |
Lynda Franklin
Member
Username: lynn
Post Number: 72
Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 9:59 pm: |
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Well I have this book from the Titanic Historical Society and this book kept me reading as no other Titanic book has .It had transported me back to 1912 and I was viewing these peoples lives and their hopes and dreams for a new life .This is the best money I have spent in years .Their devotion to their religious beliefs mostly catholic was moving to me,it showed me that their faith was a part of their lives,not just an after thought.Thank you Senan for putting a face on the nameless third class Irish passengers who now have a face .
[Moderator's Note: Four different threads about the same book have been merged to become this one. MAB] |
