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Michael H. Standart
Moderator
Username: mstandart
Post Number: 29944
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 1, 2009 - 2:52 am: |       |
Unfortunately, youtube, in and of itself, doesn't prove much of anything. Now, if the name appeared on the crew sign in lists for the voyage, that would be compelling. If the man worked under an alias (It was known to happen) and there was documentary evidence to the effect, that would be useful as well.
Cordially,
Michael H. Standart
Equal Opportunity Curmudgeon |
Mark Baber
Moderator
Username: mab
Post Number: 3631
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 1, 2009 - 3:00 am: | |
Look at the 9th and 10th messages on this page.
MAB
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OceanicSteamNavigationCo/
http://www.greatships.net/
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Kendra Bell
Member
Username: kbell85
Post Number: 74
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Friday, December 18, 2009 - 9:20 am: | |
Really need some opinions on this....and not yet able to pay to post... Sorry Phil. Hopefully this doesn't get me in trouble..... :/ I found this video on youtube awhile ago, lost it, and just recently found it again. Maybe someone can give me some insight.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLkYJPtWvSA
In the video, at 4:15 it shows some survivors "demonstrating" the lifebelts, i'm assuming, anyways if you direct your attention to the gentlemen in the middle, he has bandages on his head. It seems he passes out, then they refilm it without the man with the bandages. It makes me wonder what happened to this man. And why they simply re-filmed it. Granted its a silent film, but it still bothers me, and has since I first saw it.
Thanks,
Kendra |
Bob Godfrey
Member
Username: bobgod1
Post Number: 4957
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Friday, December 18, 2009 - 3:37 pm: | |
If I remember right there's a longer version of that clip in which it's clear that the stewards are engaged in horseplay and having some fun in front of the cameras. The rather theatrical swooning is probably part of that. It might seem odd that these men would make light of their recent experiences, but that's human nature. |
Codus Lionel
Member
Username: lionel
Post Number: 100
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Monday, January 4, 2010 - 4:10 pm: | |
A very good year in 2010 and especially a very good health to all members.
Hello to all
I just want to wish a Happy New Year 2010 and especially a very healthy at all.
I hope this year will bring new information on all ships of the time.
Good evening.
Regards all.
Lionel CODUS.
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Ann Roberts
Member
Username: hamble
Post Number: 1
Registered: 1-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, January 9, 2010 - 1:31 pm: | |
Bought Gary Cooper's biography 'E.J.' published by Lulu. The book is full of interesting facts but he doesn't list his sources! Very frustrating for anyone trying to check the details. Is he a member of this group? (I'm new) Or can anyone help me get in touch with him?
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Jason D. Tiller
Moderator
Username: jtiller
Post Number: 5458
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Saturday, January 9, 2010 - 5:13 pm: | |
Hello Ann,
Welcome aboard.
Gary is a member of this forum and he does post from time to time. Click here for the thread with regards to his book and you will notice that the first message in that thread belongs to him. Click on his name to access his profile and you can send him an e-mail that way.
"To be happy is to be contented in your own mind"...Harold Godfrey Lowe
43° 44' 01" N, 79° 24' 16"W
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Augusto Félix Solari
Member
Username: flix
Post Number: 149
Registered: 2-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 3, 2010 - 12:03 pm: | |
Hello, almost 8 months ago, The Encyclopedia Titanica became a charged service due to certain offensive remarks. Since I complained, I was able to get a free boucher for a year. However that term is now expiring and I wanted to know how can I get an extension.
Thank you! |
Kendra Bell
Member
Username: kbell85
Post Number: 75
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, November 20, 2010 - 2:01 am: | |
As I have been effected by the economy, I have been unable to obtain the membership fees, so I am forced to ask my question here. Sorry to all that this puts out.... I have recently been told of a woman that survived the sinking, and in the typical fashion the mother lived and the father died in the sinking. This woman claims to have been sixteen at the time of the sinking, the thing that intrigues me is she lived in my area and was wondering if I could find articles about her once I discover her name. I have very limited information, but the source is very reliable, and i am willing to accept the possibility that the woman was lying but the source claims she wouldn't expect that from her. I know that this is one of those obnoxious questions, that is located in the wrong spot, and extremely vague. The area that I live in is Idaho. Please email me with any addition questions. |
Jim Kalafus
Member
Username: jak
Post Number: 5962
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Friday, November 26, 2010 - 5:49 pm: | |
Kendra.... once you have the name, check out the online newspaper files at Google to see what comes up.
What comes to mind is the Collyers, who were en route to Payette, Idaho. Father died; mother lived. I vaguely seem to recall that Mr. Collyer was joining his brother there ~ perhaps this woman was related to the brother and over the years the story mutated.
NOW APPEARING:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JZ4aLBjzFI |
Bob Godfrey
Member
Username: bobgod1
Post Number: 5120
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Friday, November 26, 2010 - 8:05 pm: | |
It certainly wasn't Mrs Collyer or her daughter, as aside from being the wrong ages they gave up on the prospect of emigration and returned to England within weeks of reaching New York. I believe they were the only family heading for Idaho, but of course there could be other survivors who moved there later on in their lives. Sounds like you're close to getting a name, Kendra, but otherwise look at all female survivors who fit the bill in respect of (approximate) age and the fate of other family members. There aren't many. |
Kendra Bell
Member
Username: kbell85
Post Number: 76
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, November 27, 2010 - 5:09 pm: | |
Thanks guys. I will keep trying. |
Jim Kalafus
Member
Username: jak
Post Number: 5963
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Saturday, November 27, 2010 - 7:37 pm: | |
What you might do is hit the local microfilm room.
April 15 tended to draw TITANIC MEMORIAL articles. Up 'til A Night to Remember, they tended to appear at 5 year intervals, and after 1956 they came at far more frequent intervals. Chances are good that, sooner or later anyone with a local connection would be interviewed or profiled. So, if you invest an afternoon reading the April 15th papers from the mid 50s onward, you might find something.
If you are close to Boise, a trip to the main library there might be worthwhile.
I checked the national census for you, and whatever relatives Mr. Collyer may have had in Payette were gone by 1920. There WAS a family in Idaho named Collyer, with a daughter named Matjorie (d.o.b. 1917) who I HOPED was a cousin to THE Miss Collyer, but in that case the father seems to have been born in Tennessee.
I'll check for online Idaho papers this PM.
NOW APPEARING:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JZ4aLBjzFI |
Christine Daskis (nee Allison)
Member
Username: cdaskis
Post Number: 1
Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2010 - 1:37 am: | |
Very interesting as I am researching my family tree on Ancestry.ca. Attending the Titanic exhibit in Las Vegas, Nevada, USA a few years back and, upon exiting the area you came across the passenger lists for all classes. To my surprise at the top of the 1st Class passenger list was the Allison family..WOW to say the least as I was born Linda Christine Allison on Dec. 25, 1953 in Rossland, British Columbia, Canada. Quite a treat to find all this info on hand. |
Robert T. Paige
Member
Username: jnb
Post Number: 1271
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 10:32 pm: | |
Did ships such as Titanic have any kind of "speedometer" for an instant and continuous report of speed ?
Most accounts of speed appear to be based on engine revolutions ?
Respectfully Submitted,
Robert T. Paige
"The best I've seen, Ma'am....hardly any rats !" |
Michael H. Standart
Moderator
Username: mstandart
Post Number: 43340
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Friday, February 18, 2011 - 5:17 am: | |
>>Did ships such as Titanic have any kind of "speedometer" for an instant and continuous report of speed ?<<
Not that I'm aware of. The technology would have existed to put something together and somebody may well have come up with something but I'm not aware of any such device which was in widespread use. Most ships would have worked it out the old fashioned way; with log lines and navigation fixes.
Captain Currie may have better information on this.
Cordially,
Michael H. Standart
Equal Opportunity Curmudgeon |
Robert T. Paige
Member
Username: jnb
Post Number: 1273
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2011 - 5:37 am: | |
Michael, once again my apologies for a dumb question. On second thought, there are so many variables involved - cross currents and fore and aft currents affecting the ship's speed in addition to the effects of winds, also from all directions. The bicycle speedometers depended on a direct drive off one of the wheels and more or less in relation to RPM's, which leads us back to reckoning speed by way of the engine RPM's. (The famous 78 RPM on Titanic, for example.)It would seem that some kind of computer to take all these effects into account and come up with the true speed would be the only solution to the problem of a "ship's speedometer."
Respectfully Submitted,
Robert T. Paige
"The best I've seen, Ma'am....hardly any rats !" |
Michael H. Standart
Moderator
Username: mstandart
Post Number: 43388
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Sunday, February 20, 2011 - 4:01 am: | |
>>Michael, once again my apologies for a dumb question. <<
Robert, the only dumb question is the one which needs an answer but which one fails to ask. I know for a fact that such instruments exist today because I've seen them in use on the bridge of the USS Comstock. What I'm not sure of is the source of the data they use but I suspect it may be either GPS or SINS.
Cordially,
Michael H. Standart
Equal Opportunity Curmudgeon |
Leila Salloum Elias
Member
Username: andalus
Post Number: 3
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2011 - 4:02 am: | |
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E-mail:
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Jim Currie
Member
Username: sailorjim
Post Number: 1123
Registered: 4-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, June 5, 2011 - 4:33 pm: | |
Hello Robert T. Page!
Sorry about the lateness of this reply.
You were absolutely spot -on with your reasons why a speedometer would not work well on a ship. The same reason apply more or less to using engine revolutions. Michael is correct. There is only one way - even up to the present day using sat. nav. - to determine a ship's average speed and incidentally, the true direction she made good during her travels and that is by establishing two correct, exact positions and measuring or calculating the distance between them then applying lapsed time.
JC |
Robert T. Paige
Member
Username: jnb
Post Number: 1289
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 4:04 am: | |
Hello Jim and Michael -
This is admittedly a rather old comment on an old thread that I'm refering to :
Michael-
>> know for a fact that such instruments exist today because I've seen them in use on the bridge of the USS Comstock. What I'm not sure of is the source of the data they use but I suspect it may be either GPS or SINS.<<
I'll have to admit my "Bridge Experience" on the USS Kenneth Whiting was solely to check out the radar repeater, so I wasn't aware of any other instruments. But that was way back in the dark ages of the previous century.
Jim-
>>that is by establishing two correct, exact positions and measuring or calculating the distance between them then applying lapsed time.<<
I've checked my car's speedometer by using a stopwatch between mile markers. For example at 60MPH it should take exactly 60 seconds between mile markers. But even my relatively cheap GPS gives me accurate speed readings of the car.
Respectfully Submitted,
Robert T. Paige
"The best I've seen, Ma'am....hardly any rats !" |
Genevieve Laursey
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Posted From: 81.102.15.200
| | Posted on Thursday, November 3, 2011 - 1:19 pm: | |
Hello, I am trying to contact Senan Molony but his details are no longer on the system. Can anyone please provide an email address?
Thank you
Genevieve x
( g.laursey@gmail.com ) |
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