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Andrew J. Kahl
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Username: andrewjkahl

Post Number: 11
Registered: 3-2009
Posted on Wednesday, April 1, 2009 - 9:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

why didn't HASSAN ABILMONA, Mr Houssein Mohamed get in a lifeboat with ALBIMONA, Mr Nassef Cassem in lifeboat 15. I been wondering about this forever! Much oblige. -Andrew

[Modearor's note: This message, originally a separate subtopic under "Passenger Research" has been moved to this pre-existing subtopic relating to Third-Class Passengers. MAB]
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Michael H. Standart
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Post Number: 26360
Registered: 12-2000
Posted on Thursday, April 2, 2009 - 5:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hard to tell after nearly a century. My bet is that he didn't get into a boat for the same reasons a lot of the men didn't. He may not have been offered a spot, he may have been refused access or he may have declined an opportunity because he believed he had a duty to stay behind and defer to the women.
Cordially,
Michael H. Standart
Equal Opportunity Curmudgeon
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Bob Godfrey
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Post Number: 4687
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Thursday, April 2, 2009 - 1:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Houssein Hassan was just 11 years old. He may or may not have been related to Nassef Albimona, but was certainly traveling in his care. The fact that the man found a place in a lifeboat and the child in his care did not was obviously questionable. Craig Stringer points out that Albimona later claimed to have placed the boy in another boat before looking for a means of saving himself. Maybe he did, but it's probably more likely that he simply lost contact with him in the crowd. It's possible that Hassan looked older than his years and wasn't admitted to a boat which Albimona had assumed would take him, or was later ejected to make way for a woman or younger child, but at this distance in time there's no way of knowing for sure what happened.
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Andrew J. Kahl
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Post Number: 15
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Posted on Friday, April 3, 2009 - 12:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks Michael and Bob!
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Andrew J. Kahl
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Post Number: 16
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Posted on Friday, April 3, 2009 - 12:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I've developed a theory that Houssein simply got lost in the crowd or got misplaced in the loading of the lifeboats like the rest of the Asplund family did. Can anyone relate or have other theories! Much Obliged.
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Michael H. Standart
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Post Number: 26380
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Posted on Friday, April 3, 2009 - 4:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Theories abound and not just for this one instance. The problem is that certainty is elusive, and since 1500 people didn't live to tell their side of the story, will probably remain so. This is one area where the maxim "Don't overthink the problem!" is good advice.
Cordially,
Michael H. Standart
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Andrew J. Kahl
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Posted on Friday, April 3, 2009 - 7:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Good point Michael! Thanks all!
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Hildur Panula-Heinonen
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Post Number: 281
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Friday, June 19, 2009 - 12:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So i have recently began to study up on the Middle Eastern passengers, because there is so little info on them and will be posting some information as it comes along.
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