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Adam McGuirk
Member
Username: adam20
Post Number: 418
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 5:31 am: | 
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Hey, I have heard alot on Milton Long, since he was Jack Thayers friend, so does anyone out there know if theres a photo of him. I have never seen one in any book that mentions him or anything.
Adam |
Daniel Klistorner
Member
Username: danielr
Post Number: 663
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 2:19 pm: |
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Adam,
There is a photo of Milton Long in existence. I've seen at least one in a Commutator. They published a long article on him, I think it was on the occasion of opening up a memorial for him. I wish I could offer more assistance, but this is all I know.
Daniel. |
Brandon Whited
Member
Username: andrews
Post Number: 802
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 2:47 pm: |
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I have also wondered if there was a photograph available. I find it strange that he is often mentioned, and yet they never show an image of him. Up until Daniel's post, I was unsure as to whether or not one even existed. It would be interesting to finally see what my favorite passenger's on board friend looked like.
Cheers, 
-B.W.
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Adam McGuirk
Member
Username: adam20
Post Number: 420
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 4:17 pm: |
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Thanks Daniel, maybe if I look hard enough I can find one.
Best Regards,
Adam |
Phillip Gowan
Member
Username: philg
Post Number: 412
Registered: 4-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 4:20 pm: |
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Check out the THS Commutator of Feb-Apr 1997, p. 4. The photo is grainy and appears to come from an old newspaper. |
Adam McGuirk
Member
Username: adam20
Post Number: 422
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 5:18 pm: |
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Thanks Phil, but I am not a member of THS.
Adam |
Phillip Gowan
Member
Username: philg
Post Number: 413
Registered: 4-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 5:56 pm: |
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Adam--you can order back issues of the Commutator from THS even if you're not a member--a bit pricy, but generally speaking, each issue contains quality information and photos. |
Jason D. Tiller
Member
Username: jtiller
Post Number: 794
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Monday, August 12, 2002 - 4:20 am: |
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I have a photo of Milton in a special issue from the THS weekend event in April. I'll try and scan it to post it here, but it won't be till next weekend.
Best regards,
Jason |
Brandon Whited
Member
Username: andrews
Post Number: 806
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Monday, August 12, 2002 - 6:33 pm: |
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Thanks, Jason. We'll finally get to see what the man looked like!
Cheers,
-B.W.
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Adam McGuirk
Member
Username: adam20
Post Number: 431
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Monday, August 12, 2002 - 7:10 pm: |
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Jason thanks alot! Like Brandon said, we will finally see the man!
Adam |
Jason D. Tiller
Member
Username: jtiller
Post Number: 799
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Monday, August 12, 2002 - 10:22 pm: |
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Hi Brandon and Adam,
You're both very welcome, it's my pleasure.
Best regards,
Jason |
Jason D. Tiller
Member
Username: jtiller
Post Number: 804
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 3:14 am: |
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Brandon and Adam,
I wish that I could scan Milton's photograph for you both sooner, but I don't have my own scanner at the moment. So, I have to go my parents and use their's.
Best regards,
Jason |
Adam McGuirk
Member
Username: adam20
Post Number: 434
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 3:31 am: |
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Jason it is no problem at all, there is no need to apologize. I don't have to see a photo of Milton, i was just curious if there was one. You don't have to bother to scan one, but if you want to do it you can take all the time in the world.
Adam |
Jason D. Tiller
Member
Username: jtiller
Post Number: 807
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 4:00 am: |
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Thanks Adam. It's no trouble to scan it, I just can't do it until the weekend and I wanted to let you and Brandon know that. I need to scan some photos anyway, so it will be on my list to do.
Best regards,
Jason |
Adam McGuirk
Member
Username: adam20
Post Number: 438
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 4:02 am: |
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Alright, thanks alot!
Adam |
Jason D. Tiller
Member
Username: jtiller
Post Number: 808
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 4:03 am: |
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You're welcome!
Best regards,
Jason |
Jason D. Tiller
Member
Username: jtiller
Post Number: 810
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 3:54 pm: |
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Adam and Brandon,
I just realized, and thanks to Phil Hind for his e-mail that since the photo of Milton Long appeared in a THS publication, I will need to e-mail them and ask them for permission before posting it here.
Best regards,
Jason |
Brandon Whited
Member
Username: andrews
Post Number: 810
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 4:32 pm: |
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That is no problem, Jason. I also do not own a scanner, so I understand perfectly. Take all the time you need.
Cheers,
-B.W.
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Adam McGuirk
Member
Username: adam20
Post Number: 441
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 6:11 pm: |
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I am glad Phil reminded you to do so Jason, take all the time you need.
Adam |
Jason D. Tiller
Member
Username: jtiller
Post Number: 811
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 6:28 pm: |
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Thanks Brandon and Adam. I just e-mailed the THS, so I hope to hear back from them soon.
Best regards,
Jason |
Adam McGuirk
Member
Username: adam20
Post Number: 443
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 6:37 pm: |
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Thats good, Jason. Hopefully you will hear back soon.
Adam |
Jason D. Tiller
Member
Username: jtiller
Post Number: 816
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 5:29 pm: |
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Unfortunately due to copyrights and other issues, I'm not permitted to post the photo of Milton C. Long.
Sorry guys, I was hoping to post it for you.
Best regards,
Jason |
Adam McGuirk
Member
Username: adam20
Post Number: 451
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 5:52 pm: |
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its ok, Jason.
Adam
P.S. Do you know of any website that a picture might be on that I, or anyone, could freely acces?
Adam |
Andrew J.M. Maheux
Member
Username: joseph
Post Number: 302
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 5:55 pm: |
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There is a photo of Milton Long shown in the A & E documentery, Titanic: Death of a Dream, on one of the 4 videos.
Andrew M. |
Jason D. Tiller
Member
Username: jtiller
Post Number: 817
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 10:50 pm: |
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Hi Adam,
After doing an internet search, I haven't been able to find a website that has a photo of Milton. As Andrew mentioned, he appears in the A&E video though.
Best regards,
Jason |
Brandon Whited
Member
Username: andrews
Post Number: 812
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 3:12 am: |
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No problem, Jason.
Cheers,
-B.W.
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Adam McGuirk
Member
Username: adam20
Post Number: 456
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 3:19 am: |
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Jason, thanks for going out of your way and doing the search. I have tried to search google, with no good results. One of these days I am buying the a&e series.
Adam |
Jason D. Tiller
Member
Username: jtiller
Post Number: 831
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 4:46 am: |
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Thanks Brandon.
Adam,
You're welcome. I also did a search through Google along with Yahoo and MSN, but I couldn't find a thing. If you'd like, I can try photocopying it and I'll send it to you and Brandon.
Best regards,
Jason |
Ben Holme
Member
Username: benedict
Post Number: 425
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 10:03 am: |
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Hi Adam,
I did come across a site which included a good Milton Long photo (with Karen Kamuda signature) and, considering it a good find, I immediately added it to my favourites. Unfortunately, a "file not found" error message appears whenever I now attempt to access the link. If you type in "Milton Clyde Long" in the yahoo search engine you'll see a link to "Thelma (MacDonald) Carabetta" which I believe includes the pic. Thankfully I had the presence of mind then to print out the image before the site disappeared into the ether!
Good luck,
Ben |
Jason D. Tiller
Member
Username: jtiller
Post Number: 832
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 3:17 pm: |
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I just tried that site, and I got the error message.
Best regards,
Jason |
Adam McGuirk
Member
Username: adam20
Post Number: 458
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 8:31 pm: |
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Ben, I will try it!
Jason, photocopying would be find, if you don't mind.
Adam |
Jason D. Tiller
Member
Username: jtiller
Post Number: 833
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 8:33 pm: |
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Adam,
I don't mind at all. E-mail me your address and I'll post it to you.
Best regards,
Jason |
Trevor Powell
Member
Username: treypowell
Post Number: 8
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, September 8, 2005 - 11:55 pm: |
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Here is a photo of Milton Long on the THS website. Not the best, but it looks to be the only one available. You can also view his pocket watch.
http://www.titanichistoricalsociety.org/museum/26-milton-long.asp |
Jason D. Tiller
Moderator
Username: jtiller
Post Number: 3687
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Friday, September 9, 2005 - 1:54 am: |
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Hi Trevor,
That's the photo I was referring to in my last post in this thread. Thanks for posting the link, I wasn't aware that the THS had uploaded the image of Milton Long.
I have a photo of his grave, which I will be adding to his biography soon.
"To be happy is to be contented in your own mind"...Harold Godfrey Lowe
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Trevor Powell
Member
Username: treypowell
Post Number: 12
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 1:52 am: |
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Hi Jason,
Your very welcome, I'm glad I could be of help. I read in a different thread Jack Thayer wrote the Longs requesting a photo of Milton.It makes me wonder if he ever received one, and if so, if it still exists.
I've looked, and this is the only photo I could find of the man |
Jason D. Tiller
Moderator
Username: jtiller
Post Number: 3712
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 3:28 am: |
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Hi Trevor,
I remember reading about that and I've pondered about it as well. If indeed Jack Thayer did receive a photo of Milton and it still exists, it's most likely with the family. But, I'm just speculating.
As far as I know, that photo is the only one that has been published.
Best regards,
Jason
"To be happy is to be contented in your own mind"...Harold Godfrey Lowe
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Arthur Merchant
Member
Username: arthur
Post Number: 49
Registered: 3-2001
| | Posted on Friday, September 16, 2005 - 4:40 am: |
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After checking out the photo in the THS link, I can say that I have seen another photo of Milton Long. This was flashed briefly on the A&E special Titanic during the reading of Jack Thayer's account of how he and Milton jumped off.
Whereas the photo linked above showed his face turned toward his left, the photo on the A&E program was a head on shot. Anyone who has a copy of that program can find this segment in the 3rd quarter of the special. |
Trevor Powell
Member
Username: treypowell
Post Number: 24
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Monday, September 19, 2005 - 10:56 pm: |
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Arthur, Thanks for the information regarding this A&E special...I wonder if someone on this board can get a hold of the program and let us know... |
Jason D. Tiller
Moderator
Username: jtiller
Post Number: 3746
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 4:13 am: |
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Hi Arthur,
Thanks for reminding me of that photo, I had forgotten about it.
Hi Trevor,
I have the A&E special, so as soon as I get a chance I'll have a look and let you know.
Best regards,
Jason
"To be happy is to be contented in your own mind"...Harold Godfrey Lowe
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Arthur Merchant
Member
Username: arthur
Post Number: 50
Registered: 3-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 5:51 pm: |
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I watched the tapes of the special again, and now I'm not so sure the picture of Milton Long is different from the one in the museum. For one thing on the A&E special, his picture when shown faded in and out in seconds and the edges were blurred into the general graphics of crashing waves. With those factors, I percieved that display on TV to be different from the clean picture in the museum photo. |
Trevor Powell
Member
Username: treypowell
Post Number: 35
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 12:19 am: |
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BTW Justin....Compliments on your Milton Long grave photo. Always nice to something relating to a passenger who is seldomly seen. |
Jason D. Tiller
Moderator
Username: jtiller
Post Number: 3780
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 2:41 am: |
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Hi Trevor,
Thank you, I appreciate that and I'm glad you enjoyed the photo. I agree, never before seen images or new information are always great to see about the lesser know passengers. The same goes for members of the crew that are not well known as well.
Best regards,
Jason
"To be happy is to be contented in your own mind"...Harold Godfrey Lowe
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Jason D. Tiller
Moderator
Username: jtiller
Post Number: 3783
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 6:20 pm: |
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Further to my photo of Milton's grave I noticed earlier, that the grave states he was born the year before, as opposed to what his biography says. If that's the case, his actual birth date was October 19, 1881 which would mean he was actually 30 years old when he was aboard Titanic, not a year younger as we have thought.
Perhaps some more investigative research is in order to ascertain which is correct.
"To be happy is to be contented in your own mind"...Harold Godfrey Lowe
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Chris Dohany
Member
Username: cdohany
Post Number: 135
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, October 2, 2005 - 7:13 pm: |
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The 1900 census gives Milton's age as 17 and his birth month and year as Oct 1882. Consistently, the 1910 census, taken in April of that year, gives his age as 27. Passenger manifests in the Ellis Island records has an entry placing Long's age in Nov of 1907 at 25, yet in another he's 23 in June of 1909. None of these sources are as definitive as a birth record mind you, but we see that three out of the four instances here support the 1882 date. |
Jason D. Tiller
Moderator
Username: jtiller
Post Number: 3810
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Monday, October 3, 2005 - 2:32 am: |
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Hi Chris,
Thank you for that information. With that in mind, it appears that an error was made on the grave.
"To be happy is to be contented in your own mind"...Harold Godfrey Lowe
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Brandon Whited
Member
Username: andrews
Post Number: 1111
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 5:24 am: |
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Jack did indeed write to Long's family, telling them of how they had bonded on that final night of the voyage, and I also recall him requesting a picture of their son to remember him by.
So Milton was in fact between 29 and 30 years of age? I had mistaken him as being younger than that, around 25. If he was in fact 30, then I can easily see why he joked about looking younger than his age. He does indeed look much younger than 30, to me at least. Interesting stuff.
Cheers,
-B.W.
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