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leonard schwartz
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Username: coonsanders

Post Number: 12
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Posted on Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 10:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

hi
can anyone give me some info about the harders?
mrs h was a beauitful women.

lenny
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Brian Ahern
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Post Number: 488
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 31, 2007 - 5:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If anyone's interested in reading about George Harder's brother-in-law, click this link and scroll to page 353. Sylvester James McNamara was a prominent Brooklyn gynecologist and husband of Emilie Harder.
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Also, I hadn't noticed before that Dorothy's uncle was Brooklyn lawyer William N. Dykman. Cullen & Dykman remains a prestigious firm to this day.
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Martin Williams
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Posted on Thursday, May 31, 2007 - 11:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Brian, you never cease to amaze me! I'm constantly delighted by the information you supply on the lesser-known first-class passengers and their family connections. Keep 'em coming!
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Brian Ahern
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Post Number: 489
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Posted on Thursday, May 31, 2007 - 3:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

aw, shucks:-)

But I have to confess, it was nothing more than reading the news articles under George and Dorothy's ET bios and googling the names I found there. I figured there couldn't be so many Sylvester James McNamaras!

Reading up on the Harders is especially interesting for me because they lived in a place in which my own family lived in 1912. But, like so many, they fled Brooklyn for Manhattan and, by the time Dorothy died, were living on Park Avenue.

I once dug up the wedding announcement of the Harders' daughter, Dorothy Annan Harder. It carried a photo of her, and she was a blond beauty with a very 1930's look. I imagine she and her sister Jean were the sort of New York Society girls that you see portrayed in The Thin Man movies. The Harders, like Mary Marvin, are people I have no trouble picturing in 30's New York.
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leonard schwartz
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Posted on Thursday, May 31, 2007 - 4:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

hi guys

yep she was a looker.to bad she lived back them.she could have survived with a kidney transplant.thanks 4 responding.

coonsanders
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Brian Ahern
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Posted on Thursday, May 31, 2007 - 7:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I don't know much about kidneys or uremia, but I like to think modern medicine could have kept her from getting to the point where she even needed a transplant.
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leonard schwartz
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Posted on Thursday, May 31, 2007 - 7:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

hi

well thats what she had and what she needed.

coonsanders
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Brian Ahern
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Posted on Thursday, May 31, 2007 - 8:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

An interesting blurb taken from this site:
http://www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/Newspaper/BSU/1906.News.June.html
DOCTOR ARRESTED FOR REFUSING TO PAY TWO FARES
There was a lively row in the Coney Island police station yesterday
afternoon, when Dr. Sylvester J. MC NAMARA, nephew of Police Captain MC NAMARA, was
brought in under arrest on a charge of refusing to pay his second fare to Coney Island. The doctor, a man who had defended his refusal, a B.R.T. special policeman, and one of his friends, all made complaints and counter complaints and created such confusion that the sergeant ordered them all out of the room and told them to appear in court to-day.
In the Coney Island court this morning Dr. McNAMARA pleaded not guilty and was held in $500 bail, and the case adjourned until July 3 upon the furnishing of the bail by the defendant's wife. He is 37 years old and lives at 303 Union street.

This doesn't seem to have affected Dr. M's social position, judging from a few of his club memberships.

Emilie Harder McNamara was either dead or divorced by 1928, which is the year the Brooklyn Social Blue Book has Dr. M. marrying a Mrs. Mildred Cahn.
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Michael Cundiff
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Username: robin

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Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 8:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A New York actor, on Friday, January 9th, 2009, in Harwich, MA. Son of George Achilles Harder, a Titanic survivor, and Elizabeth Peebles Rhodes.

Source: NY Times; 1/19/2009, p18, Op
Subject Terms: OBITUARIES

Michael Cundiff
NV, USA
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