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Neil McRae
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Posted on Tuesday, October 8, 2002 - 4:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Patrick Stenson's EXCELLENT Lightoller biography makes frequent references to him being a Christian Scientist. However I don't believe the book ever delved to deep into the details of this religion. It does mention that truly orthodox Christian Scientists do not drink although Lightoller himself bent this rule on occasion. Can anyone tell me anything else?
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Pat Cook
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Posted on Tuesday, October 8, 2002 - 10:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Neil,

While I can't tell you much more about Christian Science, I CAN tell you that Lawrence Beesley also was a Christian Scientist and a teacher of it's principals. In fact, when he left Dulwich in 1909, it is written in their registry that he left to "become a Christian Scientist healer".

The founder of the religion was Mary Baker Eddy, whose work "Science and Health with Key to the Scriptures" became their guidebook, if I may call it that. (This book, by the way, was one of the two - the other being the Bible - that Lawrence stuffed in his jacket pockets when he left his cabin) The group is tremendously well documented and, in fact, you can go into almost any of their 'reading rooms' and find a complete library, hardbound if I'm not mistaken, on all their writings in the Christian Science Journals and Sentinels. In searching out material on Beesley I actually found not only two other articles written by him but his addess in 1911, and other dates, and in some cases his phone number! And, I'm sure you know, Lightoller also wrote at least one article for their Journal - about the sinking of the Titanic.

Hope this is of some help.

Best regards,
Cook
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Lee Gilliland
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Posted on Tuesday, February 25, 2003 - 9:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Their main web site is at http://www.endtime.org/, Neil. Hope that helps.
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Judson Ruhl
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Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 5:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

When the Christian Science Monitor reported to the world the news of the sinking Titanic, it had been publishing a little less than 4 years. This fledgling newspaper was created at the direction of Mary Baker Eddy, then in her eighty-eighth year, having prior to that, written and published her major work, Science and Health with Key to the Scriptures with many revisions, founded a Metaphysical College, built a church called The First Church of Christ Scientist, in Boston, established a publishing society that produced the weekly Sentinel and the monthly Journal.
It's likely that both Charles Lightoller and Lawrence Beesley belonged to that church, and probably a local Branch Church.
For more on the First Church of Christ Scientist please visit the website: http://www.tfccs.com/

It's also likely that neither man knew of the other's presence on the ship, but both were fortified by their study of Christian Science and their belief that God is a..."Present help in trouble".
Both of their accounts portray thoughtful people who listened for God's voice, then acted. C.H. Lightoller's testimony was printed in the Christian Science Journal in 1912, and later reprinted in the Christian Science Monitor which may be accessed by the following links:
http://www.csmonitor.com/cgi-bin/wit_article.pl?script/98/04/03/040398.home.relarticle.1
http://www.csmonitor.com/cgi-bin/wit_article.pl?script/98/04/03/040398.home.relarticle.1
Mr. Beesley also wrote a testimony that was printed in the Christian Science Sentinel,(vol.16, Pp.314), in which he reports his experiences in the lifeboat, and how everything that he had lost on the ship was restored, thus rescuing him from being impoverished in a strange country. I don't have a link to this testimony, but I have a copy, and will send it on to anyone who requests it.
I'm including some other links that might be interesting as well:
http://www.csmonitor.com/cgi-bin/wit_article.pl?script/98/06/19/061998.feat.feat.13 (scroll down a bit on this page)

http://www.csmonitor.com/cgi-bin/wit_article.pl?tape/80/052148.txt
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