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Jeannette Homeniuk
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Username: elena
Post Number: 6
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Friday, November 25, 2005 - 9:41 pm: | 
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Is there any record of where the Titanic was supposed to go after New York? Or any record of which ships those passengers who were to embark on the Titanic in New York did eventually go on? My grandparents were to board the Titanic in New York and I am trying to find out which ship they eventually did go on. They were on their way to Argentina. |
Ernie Luck
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Username: lucky
Post Number: 221
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Friday, November 25, 2005 - 10:05 pm: |
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Hi Jeannette
It was doing a shuttle service back and forth to New York so it was supposed to turn round and head back to So'ton. |
John Clifford
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Username: hjca
Post Number: 723
Registered: 11-2000
| | Posted on Friday, November 25, 2005 - 11:12 pm: |
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In some of the Titanic books, there is a copy of the ad for the return trip (which never took place). I don't have the picture of the ad in front of me, but the Titanic, I believe, was supposed to sail from New York on Saturday, April 20th.
John Clifford
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Dave Gittins
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Username: gittins
Post Number: 2412
Registered: 4-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2005 - 8:58 am: |
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As John says, Titanic was due to sail on 20 April. The return was made by going first to Plymouth and then to Southampton. I believe the mail and passengers in a hurry to reach London disembarked at Plymouth and rushed on to London by train.
Her next voyage would have left Southampton on 1 May, following the course of her maiden voyage. If only!
Dave Gittins
Titanic: Monument and Warning.
http://users.senet.com.au/~gittins/Book.html
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Lester Mitcham
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Username: lester
Post Number: 1035
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2005 - 8:26 pm: |
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Jeannette,
In another thread I thought you had found your grandparents return from Argentina. Is it possible that they returned on the same ship that they departed from NY on; or at least a ship belonging to the same Shipping Line? - What ship did they return on and what were their names?
As advised above Titanic was a trans-Atlanitc liner.
For 1912 she was due to sail from NY on Saturdays: 20 April, 11 May, 1 June, 22 June, 13 July, 3 August, 24 August, 14 Sept, 5 Oct, 26 Oct, 16 Nov, 7 Dec, 28 Dec.
She was due to sail from Southampton on Wednesdays: 1 May, 22 May, 12 June, 3 July, 24 July, 14 Aug, 4 Sept, 25 Sept, 16 Oct, 6 Nov, 27 Nov, 18 Dec. |
Jeannette Homeniuk
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Username: elena
Post Number: 7
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 3:53 pm: |
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Thank you all for your postings! My grandmother had told my Aunt that they did go to Southampton from New York, and then from there to Argentina. I must have been a very long trip! I couldn't find any info on ships leaving Southampton.
My grandparents (Ewaniuk) returned from Argentina on Oct 29 on the ship Titian (Lamport & Holt Line). My great grandparents must have returned earlier or later because they were not on the same ship but I haven't found any records for them (Oleniuk). Any other leads would be great. I'll keep looking. Thanks. |
Lester Mitcham
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Username: lester
Post Number: 1038
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 7:53 pm: |
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Jeannette,
I tried to locate the entry for your gandparents, but Ewaniuk was rejected by the Ellis Island Records. Guess it is mis-spelt in the Records. - Where did the Titian - [so close in name to Titanic!]- begin its voyage? |
Noel F.Jones
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Username: ver1tas
Post Number: 732
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 3:11 am: |
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"I must have been a very long trip! I couldn't find any info on ships leaving Southampton."
I haven't done a search but most liner sailings to Rio de La Plata tended to depart from London (Royal Mail, Houlder Brothers, Blue Star) or Liverpool (Lamport & Holt). I don't know of any that worked out of Southampton in 1912 - or indeed later.
Noel |
Jeannette Homeniuk
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Username: elena
Post Number: 8
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 3:55 pm: |
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Lester - the name is actually spelled Eveniuk on the listing. As far as I can see the Titian started in Santos, to Rio de Janerio, to Barbados, then to New York.
Noel - I've done a quick search on ships leaving Liverpool and London but found nothing. I'll keep looking. Thanks! |
Noel F.Jones
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Username: ver1tas
Post Number: 734
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, December 1, 2005 - 2:49 am: |
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I don't know if it's significant in this case but Lamport & Holt's run went further south to Comodoro Rivadavia, Pto.Madryn (for the Welsh emigre traffic) and Bahia Blanca etc.
Titian is in line with their naming practice; artists and literary types etc.
Noel |
Noel F.Jones
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Username: ver1tas
Post Number: 737
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, December 1, 2005 - 3:35 am: |
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David Haisman has posted something on Royal Mail services to S.America out of Southampton between the wars:
http://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/discus/messages/5695/5695.html?1133365854#POST167905
On that same I believe the Almanzora at least, went cruising in the 1930s.
His post does not address pre-WWI.
Noel |
Robert Hall
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Username: sfbobby
Post Number: 11
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Friday, April 10, 2009 - 11:13 am: |
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I really do not know where to put this question and I did try the search function with no results.
However, Were there future crossings planned for the Titanic? And if so, any bookings for them?
Thanks,
Robert
[Moderator's note: This message, originally posted to an unrelated thread in a different topic, has been moved to this pre-existing thread addressing the same subject. MAB] |
Lester Mitcham
Member
Username: lester
Post Number: 1457
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Saturday, April 11, 2009 - 12:05 am: |
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From Southampton: 1 May, 22 May, 12 June [11am], 3 July, 24 July [2pm], 14 Aug, 4 Sept, 25 Sept, 16 Oct, 6 Nov [11am], 27 Nov, 18 Dec [1pm].
All on Wedesdays at Noon unless otherwise noted. A weekly service in conjunction with Olympic and Oceanic.
From New York on Saturdays at Noon, unless otherwise noted.
20 April, 11 May [2pm], 1 June, 22 June, 13 July [10am], 3 Aug, 24 Aug [3pm], 14 Sept, 5 Oct [2pm], 26 Oct [11am], 16 Nov, 7 Dec [9am], 28 Dec.
For future bookings see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Alden_Dix |
Jeremy Aufderheide
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Username: jerauf
Post Number: 333
Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, April 11, 2009 - 1:38 am: |
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Anyone know what ship the passengers that had booked for the April 20 voyage were diverted to? The Olympic? |
Mark Baber
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Username: mab
Post Number: 3415
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Saturday, April 11, 2009 - 3:07 am: |
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There are NYT articles specifically mentioning that "some" Titanic passengers (including Gov. and Mrs. Dix) sailed on Red Star's Lapland on 20 April and about 150 sailed on Mauretania on 23 April. Other possible candidates are Hapag's Cincinnati and Anchor's California, both of which also sailed on 20 April.
The next White Star sailing was Celtic (for Liverpool) on 25 April.
MAB
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OceanicSteamNavigationCo/
http://www.greatships.net/
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Mark Chirnside
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Username: mark
Post Number: 2174
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - 9:33 pm: |
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If I remember rightly, it was reported that there were around six hundred first class bookings for Titanic's first eastbound crossing on April 20th 1912 - very strong for the time of year.
quote:There are NYT articles specifically mentioning that "some" Titanic passengers (including Gov. and Mrs. Dix) sailed on Red Star's Lapland on 20 April and about 150 sailed on Mauretania on 23 April.
Mauretania did have a fairly high number of first class passengers onboard for that sailing. I do not think the number of second or third class bookings for Titanic has been recorded, but it seems reasonable to suppose that a number of the first class passengers took Mauretania.
Best wishes,
Mark.
Mark Chirnside.
http://www.markchirnside.co.uk
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