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Glenn Miller
Posted on Sunday, December 12, 1999 - 11:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

There are many life safety codes that have their origin in the Titanic Disaster. A few of the well known ones are (1) Life boats for all (2) Required boat drills (3) 24x7 Radio Communication, (4) SOS vs. CQD and (5) Ice Patrol. We now live with building code requirements related to Titanic, notably: (6) Minimum stair widths (7) egress hardware and (8) Emergency Exit Plans. Can anyone add to this list?
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Emily Bisignano
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Username: emma_36

Post Number: 29
Registered: 4-2001
Posted on Tuesday, April 16, 2002 - 12:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Naval command has a more step-down order of authority as compared to 1912. If an ice warning came in back then, it could be in the hands of anyone not directly delivered to the captain like today. All lookouts would be required to have binoculars before leaving port but now we have satellite global positioning and Doppler radar. I know that the Coast Guard and anyone else concerning safety at sea would never let the Titanic tragedy happen again.
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Maureen Zottoli
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Post Number: 498
Registered: 12-2000
Posted on Tuesday, April 16, 2002 - 3:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Glenn, SOS existed prior to Titanic. The lifeboat requirement was changed from being based on tonnage to all aboard.

Hi there Emily, ice warnings that were headed with MSG I think would have been given to the captain I believe, otherwise they were treated less than paid messages and were pinned up for later when there was more time. Also, if you do a search on binoculars, there have been all sort of discussions on this board about the pros and cons of binoculars. All I can say is, try bouncing on a tramopline in your back yard on a totally moonless dark night holding a pair of binoculars and try holding ythem up to spot anything, even your neighbors front door window and see if you can identify it. Some say here that the lookouts never had binoculars. It was not a requirement.

The Coast Guard would do their very best not to have something like that happen again, but the sea can be cruel and things happen very quickly at times. Saying that anyone concerned with safety at sea would never let the Titanic tragedy happen again, means that if it happened that the people in charge were not concerned with safety. That may not be true. Their heart may very well be to keep all safe. But life deals us blows at times that none of us expects.

Maureen.
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Michael H. Standart
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Post Number: 3284
Registered: 12-2000
Posted on Tuesday, April 16, 2002 - 6:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Anyone who believes that collisions with icebergs no longer happen would do well to consult the DATABASE OF SHIP COLLISIONS WITH ICEBERGS at http://www.nrc.ca//i md/ice/scdb_index.ht ml and click on Click here to browse the online database.

The most recent addition concerns the shrimp Trawler BCM Atlantic which was holed in a snowstorm, likely with what the site described as a bergy bit, and sank. This happened on 18 March 2000. Very fortunately, the crew was saved after taking to the boats.

Maureen is quite correct regarding binoculars as I've had them when standing lookout duty in poor visiblity. Trying to do a search with binoculars even under the best of conditions takes a lot of practice to do competantly. It's sufficiently difficult that experienced lookouts will use the naked eye to do the searching and bring binoculars into play only after spotting something of interest. I never had much use for the things myself.

Cordially,
Michael H. Standart
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