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Denise A. Hunyadi
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Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 10:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yet another ferry meets disaster...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060330/ap_on_re_mi_ea/bahrain_ship_4

Denise
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Cliff Mark Barry
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Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 12:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Denise,

BBC News states 25 Britons on board and so 48 bodies recovered,looks like up to 170 on board but not confirmed

Cliff
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Denise A. Hunyadi
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Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 12:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So sad...

Denise
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Michael H. Standart
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Post Number: 9666
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Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 5:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

((Groan)) Not again!

The funny thing is that this happened in near ideal whether conditions. No storms or anything like that to muck things up.
Cordially,
Michael H. Standart
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Ernie Luck
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Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 8:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Looks like it was just grossly overloaded. Some intended passengers refused to board for safety concerns.
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Iain Stuart Yardley
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Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 9:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Latest is 13 Britons amongst 57 people known to have died in this disaster with 63 confirmed survivors. The boat was apparently hired as a corporate event to celebrate the completion of a building project. Some people had left the boat just before it departed because, like Ernie says, it appeared to be overloaded.
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Michael H. Standart
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Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 3:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

>>Looks like it was just grossly overloaded.<<

Yeah...that's one of the common denominators when ferrys come to a bad end over in that part of the world. Get's old after awhile and you would think that as often as it happens, somebody would start to learn the lessons. This craft couldn't have been all that large if 150 people leave the thing overloaded. I've seen tourboats all over the world that could comfortably and safely hold that many.
Cordially,
Michael H. Standart
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Jason D. Tiller
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Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 5:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A Canadian has survived the sinking and at least 57 bodies have been recovered:

Bahrain Ferry Sinking

These ferry sinkings are happening way too often.
"To be happy is to be contented in your own mind"...Harold Godfrey Lowe
43° 0' 39" N, 79° 0' 23" W.
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Zachary Lee
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Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 8:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hey, everyone! I noticed on Yahoo news this morning there was a small cruise boat that capsized during a dinner cruise. The passengers consisted of a wide variety of nationalities: British and Indian just to name a few. It is unknown on how the ship capsized but there is a rumor that maybe the ship capsized when people headed over to the left side of the cruise boat. A passenger on board called on his cell phone saying that the ship was listing. There was a little over 100 passengers on board. From what I've heard about 57 people died in the shipwreck. The cruise boat appeared around 200 feet and didn't sink at all but just laid on its side. I don't know the name of it. What have you guys heard of this shipwreck?

[Moderator's note: This post was in another thread started today, but has been moved to the pre-existing one on the same subject. JDT]
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Noel F.Jones
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Posted on Saturday, April 1, 2006 - 4:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The vessel in this case was a converted dhow. These are traditionally sail-powered single deck vessels but many have been de-rigged and motorised. In the present case the addition of a flying deck, if not otherwise compensated for, would definitely compromise stability.

That said, there are apparently a lot of these conversions available for leisure charter, also Bahrain is fairly sophisticated in maritime regulatory terms.

There was other traffic in the vicinity and, in the absence of further information, I would conjecture that the capsize was attributable to a combination of list due to 'rubbernecking' and encounter with the wake of another vessel.

Noel
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Dave Gittins
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Posted on Saturday, April 1, 2006 - 10:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

According to the BBC, stability was made worse when refrigeration and cooking equipment slid across the deck, making a bad situation worse.

The BBC has published this grim list of disasters since 1986.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4678192.stm
Dave Gittins
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Zachary Lee
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Posted on Saturday, April 1, 2006 - 11:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This disaster reminds me of the Eastland ferry disaster in 1904. Both ships capsized in calm weather conditions. It says on the internet that the ferry wasn't registered to do cruises. I also found more information on Yahoo news about this shipwreck:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060401/ap_on_re_mi_ea/bahrain_ship

There is a small graph of the ferry, the decks etc. It appears that those who were on the higher decks had better chances of surviving. It seems like most of the victims were in the dining room when the ferry capsized. So, who now wants to go on a ferry?
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Noel F.Jones
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Posted on Sunday, April 2, 2006 - 4:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

In the interests of pedantry; by reason of the nature of its employment this dhow cannot be said to be a "ferry".

Also the word 'replica' has appeared in subsequent reports; on the photographic evidence I thought these vessels looked too large to be real dhows.

The latest is that the Bahraini authorities had not licensed this particular vessel to ply for hire.

Noel
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Michael H. Standart
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Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 4:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

From the Maritime Global Net:

quote:

IMO Secretary General Efthimios Mitropoulos used a speech to open this week’s session of the agency’s Sub-Committee on Bulk Liquids and Gases to highlight his strong feelings over last weeks sinking of a tourist boat in Bahrain, with heavy loss of life.


For the rest of the story, go to http://www.mgn.com/news/dailystorydetails.cfm?storyid=6455&type=2

Comment: Kind of speaks for itself. However for all the posturing I can't help but get the sense that it won't take long for things to go back to Business As Usual. In fact, it probably already has.
Cordially,
Michael H. Standart
Equal Opportunity Curmudgeon
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