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Jon Brockman
Member
Username: jonb
Post Number: 88
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Monday, October 26, 2009 - 8:31 pm: | 
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About a year ago the Canadian government announced plans to search for Franklin's two fabled lost ships Erebus and Terror, anybody know how it went? did the search take place? are they still looking?
I have asked this on another forum and would also like to here.
http://www2.canada.com/windsorstar/news/story.html?id=147541d1-0d04-445c-963a-f9c498b32883#
Thanks
White Star Line Collector www.theboatdeck.co.uk
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Michael H. Standart
Moderator
Username: mstandart
Post Number: 31269
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 6:05 am: |
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As far as I know, they haven't started anything yet and with winter coming on, don't expect to see anything happen for a few months.
Cordially,
Michael H. Standart
Equal Opportunity Curmudgeon
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Dave Gittins
Member
Username: gittins
Post Number: 4124
Registered: 4-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 8:01 pm: |
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See my post on titanic-titanic.
According to a source of uncertain reliability, the Parks Canada search was abandoned before it started. A private search will be made, but winter is coming, so nothing much is likely this year.
Dave Gittins
Titanic: Monument and Warning.
http://users.senet.com.au/~gittins/Book.html
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AUGUSTO FÉLIX SOLARI
Member
Username: f_lix
Post Number: 30
Registered: 8-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 3, 2009 - 4:32 pm: |
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Those ships do not longer exist! As far as I am concerned, the Franklin expedition got trapped in an ice pack in the winter of 1847-1848. Why?Because the thought that the King William Island was a peninsula and went further to the north, directly towards an ice pack. The Erebus was eventually abandoned and crushed by the ice, while the Terror was used by inuits as a food storage. Since these ships were made of wood it is impossible that they had survived! |
Jeff Brebner
Member
Username: wheeds
Post Number: 73
Registered: 4-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 3, 2009 - 7:29 pm: |
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Depends on the water conditions. Look how long the Vasa survived, and she's pretty wooden. |
Grant Carman
Member
Username: lksimcoe
Post Number: 338
Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 3, 2009 - 8:28 pm: |
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Even sea water in the north is extremely cold, and tends to last dozens, if not hundreds of years. THere are many old whaling stations in the artic that are still in excellent condition.
It is possible that if either of them sunk, that there would be remains.
The warmer the water, the faster the woodworms do their stuff. |
Michael H. Standart
Moderator
Username: mstandart
Post Number: 31436
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 4, 2009 - 3:25 am: |
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>>Since these ships were made of wood it is impossible that they had survived!<<
Actually, it's quite possible. Toredo shipworms don't like the arctic and extreme cold has preservative qualities all it's own. Whether or not the wrecks have probably survived is another matter, but it's not impossible.
Cordially,
Michael H. Standart
Equal Opportunity Curmudgeon
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AUGUSTO FÉLIX SOLARI
Member
Username: f_lix
Post Number: 31
Registered: 8-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 4, 2009 - 12:50 pm: |
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I am sorry, but I think that my statement has been misunderstood, I only wanted to make clear that because of these ships wood constructions they could not whistand the huge pressure of ice once they had been trapped.My mistake, I should have been more specific.
However, I don´t think that the temperature is the only factor to be taken into account, what about humidity? Wood structures in the dessert of Arizona can last for centuries despite the extreme heat. |
Michael H. Standart
Moderator
Username: mstandart
Post Number: 31480
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, November 5, 2009 - 5:16 am: |
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>>what about humidity? <<
Errrrr...in an underwater environment, I suspect that humidity is a moot point.
Regarding the "Pressure" of ice, it's quite possible that these vessels were crushed. If that's the case, I doubt that much of anything would be found other then splinters. However, if the damage was only just enough to let the water in, there may well be a largely intact wreck to find.
Cordially,
Michael H. Standart
Equal Opportunity Curmudgeon
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