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bob cook
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Username: bob_cook
Post Number: 13
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 8:45 pm: | 
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Came across a few other movies that feature recognizable or almost recognizable ships. Last night on TCM - The Princess Comes Across, 1936 - with Fred McMurray and Carole Lombard. The final scene shows the Normandie.
Mae West in her movie Goin' to Town, sails for Europe of the Olympic in the final scene.
Once Upon a Honeymoon, 1942, with Ginger Rogers and Cary Grant, final scene is a ship model, looking similar to the America, turning full circle in Mid Ocean to go back and look for Ginger Roger's Nazi husband, Walter Slezak.
Also, in a number of movies during the 40's and 50's, a generic ship was used, a two funnel ship in what looks like the colors of the Italian Line. Maybe the Rex or Conte Di Savoia.
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Grant Carman
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Username: lksimcoe
Post Number: 31
Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 4:11 am: |
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Not sure if this one has been mentioned, but was marooned at the cottage for 2 weeks, and one day during a heavy rainstorm, saw an old Carole Lombard/Bing Crosby movie. At the end of the movie they show a liner with a big "M" on the funnels.
Are these Matson Line? Any idea which one? |
Bryan Ricks
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Username: bryan_ricks
Post Number: 29
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 11:02 pm: |
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Didn't see this listed:
An aerial shot of the United states in the opening of West Side Story. The aged and unrestored film showed her decks as red |
Richard Glueck
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Username: richard_glueck
Post Number: 153
Registered: 4-2005
| | Posted on Friday, September 1, 2006 - 10:14 pm: |
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I caught West Side Story on a PBS broadcast where the color was still good. The big liner is seen almost full length from the sky view looking straight down. Her funnels are smoking too! It's such a short scene, yet for 1961 or 62, it says so much about the role of the piers in the daily life of Manhattan residents. I would guess that those furnaces never really shut down for any length of time, simply to keep the gasket packing hot and wet. Of course it allowed the ship to maintain it's own power as well.
Thanks for reminding me. |
Grant Carman
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Username: lksimcoe
Post Number: 232
Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Friday, August 8, 2008 - 7:45 pm: |
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Thought I'd revive this thread to ask a question. A couple of nights ago, watched the 1930's Bette Davis movie Now, Voyager. Was it done on a set, or was it on a ship. Some of the dining room chairs looked remarkably like chairs from the first class dining room on the Queen Mary. |
Russell Smith
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Username: colonialmarine0431
Post Number: 79
Registered: 7-2008
| | Posted on Friday, August 8, 2008 - 8:01 pm: |
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According to WIKI (always to be taken with a grain of salt) : "Principal photography was shifted to Warner's sound stage 18 and various locations around California including the
San Bernardino National Forest while European scenes were replaced by stock footage of the Caribbean"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Now,_Voyager
CQD...er...I mean SOS ...---...
41° 46' N, 50° 14' W
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Joe Russo
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Username: joserus
Post Number: 305
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, August 9, 2008 - 7:44 am: |
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I just saw "Brideshead Revisited" and there is a digitally animated establishing shot of an Edwardian era ocean liner crossing the North Atlantic at night. It appears to be a mixture of several ships. It looks like the Berengaria at first glance because it has three slim Cunard funnels, but a closer look reveals the Titanic's superstructure and hull.
The sets of the interior shots on the ship are art deco. The scene takes place in the 1930's. |
Robert H. Gibbons
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Username: hhardleyat
Post Number: 438
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, August 9, 2008 - 12:11 pm: |
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If you google "TCM Trailers" you go to Turner Classic Movies and then go to the trailer "How to Marry A Millionaire" and there is a beautiful shot of a two-funneled French liner sailing across the screen in glorious CinemaScope. In the movie "The Cardinal" there is a two-funneled Italian liner (model) taking Rev. Fermoil and the Cardinal from Boston to Italy to vote for the new Pope. Back in the early 80s, this model was on the roof of the Variety Arts building in downtown LA. It was too long to go inside! Robert H. Gibbons |
Jason Schleisman
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Username: bioflosse
Post Number: 1426
Registered: 2-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, August 9, 2008 - 5:03 pm: |
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Hi Robert, I think the ship in the trailer for "How To Marry A Millionaire" is the SS Liberté (previously the SS Europa). Just imagine ~ as her former German self, this ship had sunken once right after WWII, and THEN been raised for continued service with the French.
I wonder if anyone who ever sailed on her as the SS Liberté ever realized they were sailing on a previously sunken ship.
"Get a picture of that ~ 'Most Smartest'." Huh?
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Chad Goodwin
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Username: cubby1969
Post Number: 122
Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, May 24, 2009 - 4:34 am: |
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The SS UNITED STATES on I LOVE LUCY
The QUEEN MARY in SABRINA |
Jim Kalafus
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Username: jak
Post Number: 5352
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Monday, May 25, 2009 - 12:07 am: |
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>I wonder if anyone who ever sailed on her as the SS Liberté ever realized they were sailing on a previously sunken ship.
Gutted by fire pre-maiden voyage. Sunk 1946. Partially gutted by another fire pre-1950. Worst of all, served as a floating prop for a Jane Russell musical AND had a Hindenburg survivor die on its gangplank. If ever a vessel can be said to have been accursed.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYf2Ik3wJAU
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Jim Kalafus
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Username: jak
Post Number: 5353
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Monday, May 25, 2009 - 12:25 am: |
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>The SS UNITED STATES on I LOVE LUCY
Dude, that was either the Independence or the Constitution.
Jumping ahead to 1963.... the Independence (probably mortified) made a series of cameos in the first... ahem... American made "Nudie" film starring a sort-of-celebrity. Jayne Mansfield, just minutes way from the 50 pound weight gain that gave a walrus-like quality to her later "teaser" type of films, gave "The full monty" in her self-produced bedroom farce "Promises Promises." Set aboard the Independence, it was a rather thin film about two honeymooning couples who WANT to make a baby while on vacation but both husbands are sterile. HA! Funny concept, no?
Anyway, Miss Mansfield did her nude scenes in front of cameras for Playboy, which ran a multi-page spread on the making of the film.
The end result? Some good stock footage of the Independence. As for the rest: a 3 second clip of Miss Mansfield emerging from her cabin bathroom door topless. A 3 second clip Jayne, minus clothing, writhing on a bed while having an unpleasant dream. And despite what Playboy promised, a sheet strategically hid.... oh well, you get the picture. And the scene is lit in such a way that her C-section scar looks like the Grand Canyon.
With six seconds of film of a sort of big star nude, and publicity which promised THE dirty film of 1963, what were the producers to do? The two clips were used again and again and again. At least ten minutes of running time is eaten up by endless repetitions of those two clips. You'll scream O GOD, NOT AGAIN a half hour into the 90 minute running time.
The Independence looked a lot sleeker than the stars of the film. The stock footage of Indy is of more interest... even to non ship people.... than the infamous nude scenes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYf2Ik3wJAU
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Rocky Whiteside
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Username: titaniccharlie1394
Post Number: 337
Registered: 11-2007
| | Posted on Monday, May 25, 2009 - 2:25 am: |
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It was the Constitution in i love lucy. |
Chad Goodwin
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Username: cubby1969
Post Number: 125
Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Monday, May 25, 2009 - 3:53 am: |
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sorry.....i am human and can make mistakes |
George Lorton
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Username: mr_retro
Post Number: 173
Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Monday, May 25, 2009 - 5:24 am: |
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quote:sorry.....i am human and can make mistakes
As do we all! If I had a penny for every mistake I made Id' be rich enough to buy the Constitution lock stock and barrel! To error is human! |
Felicity Darwen
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Username: felicity
Post Number: 7
Registered: 2-2009
| | Posted on Monday, May 25, 2009 - 6:12 am: |
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There's a shot of the SS United States tied up at the dock in Philadelphia in the movie 'Baby Mama'. Only a very short shot, but she's recognisable nonetheless. |
George Lorton
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Username: mr_retro
Post Number: 175
Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Monday, May 25, 2009 - 6:24 am: |
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Hello Felicity,
I never seen that one Felicity! My curiosity has got me! What's Baby Mama about? Sorry we're off topic! Just curious! |
Eric Longo
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Username: mauretania19061936
Post Number: 829
Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Monday, May 25, 2009 - 7:06 am: |
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Hi All,
Well, this might be a stretch, but what looks like the Lusitania and the Mauretania make a brief appearance in The Godfather Part II. I see them every time I watch it (not often). They can be seen early in the film, on the painted stage flat of New York harbor which is shown before the tenor sings "Senza Mia" (when Vito is sitting behind the Black Hand at the theatre). Both ships seem to be shown - coming and going apparently direct from the Bay of Naples to the 13TH Street piers. The date is about right as well - Antonio "Vito" was born on 12/7/92 and is around 20 in this scene. On the flat Vesuvius is smoking, indicating a date after 1906. Interestingly, the funnels on both ships are black.
By name, the QM is "in" the film as well - it is the ship Connie wants to book passage on in 1958.
Best,
Eric
Mauretania 07 photographs/memorabilia/postcards buy/sell. Image restoration. magikbilly@yahoo.com
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Felicity Darwen
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Username: felicity
Post Number: 8
Registered: 2-2009
| | Posted on Monday, May 25, 2009 - 7:19 am: |
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George,
'Baby Mama' is a comedy, it stars Tina Fey and Amy Poehler (both from Saturday Night Live) and it's about a woman who uses a surrogate to have a baby. In one scene Tina Fey walks through a vacant lot and you can see the SS United States in the background, but it's only a very tiny scene, maybe only five or ten seconds. I've been meaning to mention it on here for awhile now and kept forgetting.
Hope this helps! |
Eric Longo
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Username: mauretania19061936
Post Number: 830
Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Monday, May 25, 2009 - 8:23 am: |
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Hi All,
I just thought of another - if memory serves the QM is passed of as the Berengaria in 1985's Dream Child. This film is a fictional account of the relationship between the Liddell family and Charles Dodgson as seen in flashback through the eyes of older Mrs. Alice Hargreaves, when she came to New York in 1932. After seeing this film I gave my mate, who is obsessed with Alice, the 1886 Macmillan facsimile of the 1866 D. Appleton first American edition along with a rather scarce 1932 (unsigned) copy of Alice's Adventures in Wonderland which was given out in New York at the Centennial of Lewis Carroll's birth. You might find it an interesting film if you like Lewis Carroll.
Best,
Eric
Mauretania 07 photographs/memorabilia/postcards buy/sell. Image restoration. magikbilly@yahoo.com
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ash briers
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Username: s2hsr
Post Number: 109
Registered: 5-2008
| | Posted on Monday, May 25, 2009 - 10:43 am: |
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hi, i don't know if it's already been mentioned, but has anyone seen "Munsters Go Home" (i think thats what it is). it is set on the United States and has a good many seconds or minutes of footage (i've only seen a small clip) but it is undeniably United States, also does anyone watch "Little Britain", because in the third series the character "bubbles deveire" was in a room that was generally thought to be a casino, but if you know your ships you can clearly see in the background the "unicorns in battle" and the lights by the entrances, clearly giving away this is the Queen Mary, then in another episode it shows one of the first class corridors and the captains quarters, has anyone seen any of these? |
ash briers
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Username: s2hsr
Post Number: 110
Registered: 5-2008
| | Posted on Monday, May 25, 2009 - 10:48 am: |
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oh ya and as i mentioned in another thread i once saw either Lusitania or Mauretania in a "all grown up" (later version of rugrats) its all cartoon, but which ever one it is is seen steaming off from port, showing her stern with red and rusty funnels, the docking bridge and promenades are clearly depictable of those of the 'tania standard, i will keep trying to find this episode. |
George Lorton
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Username: mr_retro
Post Number: 178
Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Monday, May 25, 2009 - 5:55 pm: |
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Thanks Felicity! I remember it now. The name had me thinking early 1930's uncensored movies like Baby Face with Barbara Stanwyck! Yes, I was thinking that kind of Movie. Bad I know!
Eric, I saw that Dream Child as a kid and remember it fondly! I don't remember the Ship but remember the freaky dream sequences in it! |
Chad Goodwin
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Username: cubby1969
Post Number: 127
Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 12:30 am: |
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The Titanic makes an appearance in the Cyndi Lauper Video for True Colors |
George Lorton
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Username: mr_retro
Post Number: 180
Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 2:40 am: |
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Hi Chad,
No Way! The only video I remember of her's is 'Girls Wanna Have Fun'
Here's Cyndi's Video at Yoyutube!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbZDjnWtK1A |
Kyle Johnstone
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Username: aero2k
Post Number: 387
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 4:45 pm: |
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Worst Ship Film Ever. Ever.
"Final Voyage" starring.... Ice Cube.
The plot is a heist story, the ship, an old Floating Palace newly refitted and on her new maiden voyage, is hijacked by a gang wanting to rob the safe which for some reason is said to contain gold and jewels, and the rich and famous passengers. So original.
The ship is called "The Britannic". Not "Britannic", as the life ring says "The Britannic".
I tuned in with the hope that maybe some of it was filmed aboard the Queen Mary, and yes, some of it was. But they used the worst parts of the Queen Mary, mostly along the starboard boat deck with it's Long Beach additions such as the red British phone boxes and the life boat demonstration station. None of the Queen Mary's glorious public rooms were used.
The movie's interior ship sets were filmed in some nondescript average hotel somewhere, and the stand-in for the ship's engine room was probably the basement of said hotel, with cement walls and pillars etc.
Other interior sets were cheap looking awful sets built for the movie, such as the radio room which for some reason has a engine room telegraph mounted on the bulkhead. The wheelhouse set looks as if it may have been built by high school kids in their garage. I guess the producers couldn't afford to use what the Queen Mary had to offer, as long as they were already there.
The ship-at-sea scenes were poached from "Juggernaut", which used the Maxim Gorkey.
The climax is of course an explosion which sinks the ship, and there are hilarious shots of extras running around the Queen Mary's upper decks, followed by a half-decent animation of a sinking passenger ship.
Worst ship film ever. Ever. |
Kyle Johnstone
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Username: aero2k
Post Number: 388
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 5:12 pm: |
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a mostly unknown gem...
"Rich and Strange"
from 1931 directed by.... Alfred Hitchcock.
The story is basically a money-doesn't-buy -happiness morality play.
A young working class married couple from London suddenly and unexpectedly inherit a fortune from an uncle (how often does that happen?) and decide to see the world.
First stop, Paris.
At a music hall, at the close of the performance, the stage is transformed into a huge Cunard advertisement, showing a gorgeous graphic illustration of the Cunard giant three at the time, Mauretania, Berengaria, Aquitania "CUNARD Paris-New York Apply 6 Rue Scribe"
From Marseille the couple take an ocean voyage to the Far East, and from then on we are aboard ship.
Along with some pretty good sets, mostly a section of the Promenade Deck and the couple's cabin, there is much beautiful stock footage of a liner throughout the film. The ship shown in the stock footage is fairly sizeable, possibly Cunard because of the earlier Cunard promotion shown at the Paris music hall.
There is a touch of Hitchcock-ian humor, such as the husband with a dreadful attack of mal-d'-mer, which gives the wife the opportunity to become acquainted with a certain male passenger. Thus the film's melodrama typical of the time.
A good ship flick, see it if you come across it.
As for the title, "Rich and Strange", well, you'll have to ask Hitch. |
Chad Goodwin
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Username: cubby1969
Post Number: 128
Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 10:59 pm: |
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George Her 1989 release A NIGHT TO REMEMBER was inspired by a little book we all know |
George Lorton
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Username: mr_retro
Post Number: 184
Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 27, 2009 - 4:04 am: |
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I didn't know Cyndi Lauper was a ANTR/Titanic Fan! Sweet and neat that she wrote a song about it! Thanks for the info Chad! |
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