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Scott Newman
Member
Username: newbodimus
Post Number: 144
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 6:47 pm: | 
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Great photos Michael...it makes one wonder what Titanic would have looked like just after sinking. A closer comparison might be what Britannic may have looked like just after sinking...
Thanks!
Scott
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Wayne Keen
Member
Username: dockeen
Post Number: 223
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 - 1:38 am: |
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I saw some dive folks saying they were somewhat disappointed that the flight deck is at 150 feet, making it a technical dive.
Wayne |
Richard Glueck
Member
Username: richard_glueck
Post Number: 116
Registered: 4-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 - 2:48 am: |
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Only 150 feet? There is a shot of a diver over the stack that makes it look much, much, deeper. Terrific pictures, both scuttling and aftermath.
Regarding the closed compartment and implosion idea; It would be fascinating to document it, but wouldn't such a sealed compartment have the implosion force of a bomb if it finally let go under constant pressure, without warning? I would think it would make sport diving exceptionally hazardous until the compartment flooded.
I am assuming that implosions of cabins, steel compartments and lockers, etc., must happen at fairly shallow depths during a ships descent. Even so, light bulbs were found intact aboard the "Andrea Doria" as late as a year after she sank!
This would be a great wreck to regularly watch as it becomes overgrown with life forms. |
Wayne Keen
Member
Username: dockeen
Post Number: 224
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 - 3:21 am: |
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You are of course correct about the issues with unplanned implosion. I just get curious about weird stuff....
Speaking of that, I will be curious to see how she responds, if at all, to a hurricane - which I hope doesn't come close for a while - given where I live.
Wayne |
Jim Hathaway
Member
Username: compassrose
Post Number: 189
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 - 3:44 am: |
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I do remember film of a compartment imploding, as I remember it was in "The Atomic Bomb Movie", and was taken in a fleet sub.
I believe it was associated with one of the Bikini test shots. Probably Baker.
Honjitsu tenki seiro naredomo nami takashi-...
Akiyama Saneyuki
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Michael H. Standart
Moderator
Username: mstandart
Post Number: 10149
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 - 5:34 am: |
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>>I saw some dive folks saying they were somewhat disappointed that the flight deck is at 150 feet, making it a technical dive.<<
They'll just have to get over it. Short of a really violent upheaval, the hulk of the Oriskany isn't going anywhere. It might have been nice to have her in a shallower resting place but then there would be issues of the wreck presenting a hazard to deep draft navigation to contend with.
Cordially,
Michael H. Standart
Equal Opportunity Curmudgeon
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Wayne Keen
Member
Username: dockeen
Post Number: 225
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 3:12 am: |
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I wonder how deep in the mud, if she is in mud or sand, she is....
Wayne |
Linda Sherlock
Member
Username: marina
Post Number: 9
Registered: 1-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, May 28, 2006 - 2:25 pm: |
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My apologies if this link has already been supplied, but these are the best pics of the sinking of the Oriskany that I've seen. They are especially good of the charge boat on the deck. Clever the way it was designed to float freely as she sank.
http://www.irishmansoftware.com/Oriskany.htm |
Wayne Keen
Member
Username: dockeen
Post Number: 227
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, May 28, 2006 - 4:01 pm: |
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PCB/Environmental Article:
http://newstandardnews.net/content/index.cfm/items/3202
Wayne |
Jim Hathaway
Member
Username: compassrose
Post Number: 191
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, May 28, 2006 - 4:32 pm: |
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Fantastic photos, Linda- many thanks for posting them.
Looking at the last photo, it looks like the CATCC radar dome has imploded, there seem to be pieces of it swirling around-
An interesting boat in the background seems to be an old Asveville class Patrol Gunboat.
I viewed a class list, and Chehalis and Grand Rapids are unaccounted for, so perhaps they were transferred to NOAA after their Navy service. http://www.gunboatriders.com/theboats/
Perhaps Michael Standart could confirm what the ship seems to be-
Honjitsu tenki seiro naredomo nami takashi-...
Akiyama Saneyuki
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Michael H. Standart
Moderator
Username: mstandart
Post Number: 10174
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Monday, May 29, 2006 - 6:03 am: |
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Outstanding photos, Linda. I'm going to pass that link on to the About.com U.S. Military forum. One of the members there is a former Oriskany man.
On the Patrol Gunboats of the Ashville class, the following have survived as research vessels. The former USS Antalope as the OSV Peter W Anderson at http://www.navsource.org/archives/12/11086.htm
The USS Crockett as the research vessel Crockett at http://www.navsource.org/archives/12/11088.htm
The USS Chehalis as the research vessel Athena http://www.navsource.org/archives/12/11094.htm
The USS Grand Rapids as the research vessel Athena II at http://www.navsource.org/archives/12/11098.htm
I'm afraid I can't identify the two (And there is one with a black bow and one which is white from stem to stern) in the photos.
Cordially,
Michael H. Standart
Equal Opportunity Curmudgeon
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Jim Hathaway
Member
Username: compassrose
Post Number: 192
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Monday, May 29, 2006 - 1:08 pm: |
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Thanks, Michael, I am almost sure it is Athena (Ex PG-94 Chehalis).
Her bridge is mostly unmodified apart from a box at the base.
The one with the black bow is probably Athena II
(Ex PG-98 Grand Rapids), she seems to have a built up area forward of the bridge as shown in the photos-
Honjitsu tenki seiro naredomo nami takashi-...
Akiyama Saneyuki
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Wayne Keen
Member
Username: dockeen
Post Number: 233
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 6:57 pm: |
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An ongoing resource:
http://www.visitpensacola.com/static/index.cfm?contentID=125&OVRAW=oriskany&OVKEY=oriskany&OVMTC=standard |
Michael H. Standart
Moderator
Username: mstandart
Post Number: 10495
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 8:02 pm: |
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The latest underwater photos can be viewed at http://www.ussoriskanyonline.com/underwater.htm
The homepage for this website is at http://www.ussoriskanyonline.com/
Cordially,
Michael H. Standart
Equal Opportunity Curmudgeon
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Wayne Keen
Member
Username: dockeen
Post Number: 235
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 3:13 am: |
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Thanks!
I gather the dive shops are very booked.
Wayne |
Michael H. Standart
Moderator
Username: mstandart
Post Number: 10580
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 6:29 am: |
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>>I gather the dive shops are very booked.<<
This time of the year, I'd be amazed if they weren't. The Oriskany should draw quite a bit of attention at least in the near term, though I think the novelty value will eventually wear off.
Cordially,
Michael H. Standart
Equal Opportunity Curmudgeon
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Wayne Keen
Member
Username: dockeen
Post Number: 236
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 9:58 pm: |
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I have been told that this level of booking is unusual, though I am not a diver...
Wayne |
Michael H. Standart
Moderator
Username: mstandart
Post Number: 10760
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Sunday, August 20, 2006 - 5:32 pm: |
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From The Pensacola News Journal;
quote:Man dies after Oriskany dive
Michael Stewart
@PensacolaNewsJournal.com
A man who had just surfaced after diving Saturday afternoon on the Oriskany died of unknown causes.
Details of the incident were sketchy and there were conflicting reports of what actually occurred.
A U.S. Coast Guard boat was dispatched to meet a recreational boat en route to shore with a man who experienced problems after a dive on the decommissioned aircraft carrier, Petty Officer Troy Smith said.
For the rest of the story, go to http://pensacolanewsjournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060820/NEWS01/608200329/1006
Comment: Given the high interest shown by divers in the ship, I'm surprised it took this long for something to happen. At the moment, the jury is out on the cause of death, but if it wasn't the bends, I have to wonder if it was some other condition which was aggravated by the dive.
Cordially,
Michael H. Standart
Equal Opportunity Curmudgeon
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Richard Glueck
Member
Username: richard_glueck
Post Number: 149
Registered: 4-2005
| | Posted on Monday, August 21, 2006 - 1:28 am: |
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I'm not sure this dive site should be promoted for vacation sport diving such as it has been. Until you reach, what, 75 feet, you are only approaching the stack. The deck and interior spaces are well below the capability of most sport divers. I have no idea of what killed this poor guy, but I hope the "Oriskany" doesn't rival the "Andrea Doria" for killing both qualified and unqualified divers. |
Michael H. Standart
Moderator
Username: mstandart
Post Number: 10769
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 3:59 am: |
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The "Jury" is now in on this matter.
quote:Death was not diving related
Heart attack claimed life of Oriskany diver
Amy Sowder
@PensacolaNewsJournal.com
The Pensacola man who died Saturday minutes after diving the Oriskany suffered from heart problems, and his death was not dive-related, his wife and a medical official said Monday.
Chester "Chet" Alan Robinson, 55, was the owner of KAOZ, a North W Street shop that specializes in tattoos and body piercings, and had been diving for more than 40 years.
For the rest of the story, go to http://www.pensacolanewsjournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060822/NEWS01/608220329/1006
Cordially,
Michael H. Standart
Equal Opportunity Curmudgeon
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Wayne Keen
Member
Username: dockeen
Post Number: 246
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 4:31 am: |
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I heard on the local radio the man had a heart condition, and had apparently stopped taking his meds - FWIW.
Wayne |
Wayne Keen
Member
Username: dockeen
Post Number: 247
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 4:32 am: |
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Which was repeated in the article...
Wayne |
Michael H. Standart
Moderator
Username: mstandart
Post Number: 10788
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 6:03 am: |
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>>I heard on the local radio the man had a heart condition, and had apparently stopped taking his meds - FWIW.<<
Apparantly, it was worth this chap's life! Kind of steep if you ask me but I'm not the one who paid up!
Cordially,
Michael H. Standart
Equal Opportunity Curmudgeon
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