Encyclopedia Titanica Message Board » Other Ships and Shipwrecks » US Navy » USS Alabama « Previous Next »
Author Message
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

David F. Smith
Member
Username: davidinhartford

Post Number: 459
Registered: 7-2001
Posted on Monday, September 12, 2005 - 1:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Here is a link to the USS Alabama website. They have posted photos now that the water has receded. The ship is listing at an approx 15 degree angle due to the fact it is sitting on the bottom and has shifted, not due to taking on water.

http://www.ussalabama.com/html/photos/index.php
David Smith
aka:DavidinHartford
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Michael H. Standart
Moderator
Username: mstandart

Post Number: 12951
Registered: 12-2000
Posted on Monday, September 12, 2005 - 2:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Looks to me like the ship did far better then just about anything else there. The museum section with the historic aircraft is a mess. I hope they can make everything right but I think it's obvious that they're going to eat some losses.
Cordially,
Michael H. Standart
Equal Opportunity Curmudgeon
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

David F. Smith
Member
Username: davidinhartford

Post Number: 460
Registered: 7-2001
Posted on Monday, September 12, 2005 - 4:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

An earlier article mentioned that 18 people rode out the storm on the ship after driving their vehicles up the ramp onto the deck.

I would think they battened down the hatches real well. One can imagine the looks on their faces when the ship listed over!! Not to mention when they got outside and saw that the ramp was destroyed when the ship moved. I wonder if any of their cars got blown overboard?
David Smith
aka:DavidinHartford
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Michael H. Standart
Moderator
Username: mstandart

Post Number: 12956
Registered: 12-2000
Posted on Tuesday, September 13, 2005 - 4:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The ship was probably the safest possible place to ride out the storm. They may not have liked losing the cars (I have doubts about that one. I've seen the ship and the ramps looked too small for that) but better to lose the cars then to lose their lives.
Cordially,
Michael H. Standart
Equal Opportunity Curmudgeon
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Wayne Keen
Member
Username: dockeen

Post Number: 106
Registered: 7-2005
Posted on Tuesday, September 13, 2005 - 6:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"An earlier article mentioned that 18 people rode out the storm on the ship after driving their vehicles up the ramp onto the deck."

That few? I remember close to 100 riding out Dennis earlier.

"One can imagine the looks on their faces when the ship listed over!!"

The ship also shifted. In some sense she was probably pseudo-afloat at one point - that would have been - weird.

Wayne
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

David F. Smith
Member
Username: davidinhartford

Post Number: 461
Registered: 7-2001
Posted on Tuesday, September 13, 2005 - 8:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Wayne, perhaps I misread that and they meant 18 families? But that would also imply 18 vehicles to deal with. I could see getting 5 or 6 small cars up that ramp and parked on the deck. With an anticipated storm surge of 20-25 feet they sure knew that any cars left in the lot would have been submerged. I suppose they would have tied the cars down to the deck somehow.
David Smith
aka:DavidinHartford
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Michael H. Standart
Moderator
Username: mstandart

Post Number: 12965
Registered: 12-2000
Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 6:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

From the photos I've seen, I can't find any evidence that there were any vehicals on deck and I don't recall seeing any points in the deck where much of anything could be tied down. That doesn't mean it wasn't attempted for something, but if it was, the vehical was either removed from the ship, or it's now Mobile Bay's newest marine habitat.
Cordially,
Michael H. Standart
Equal Opportunity Curmudgeon
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Wayne Keen
Member
Username: dockeen

Post Number: 109
Registered: 7-2005
Posted on Sunday, November 6, 2005 - 3:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Update from the USS Alabama site:

http://www.ussalabama.com/html/news/index.cgi?action=fullscreen&primary_key=50

STILL NO DATE SET FOR PARK REOPENING Tuesday, Nov 01, 2005

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

USS ALABAMA Battleship Memorial Park officials are encouraged by the slow-but-sure progress being made by Jordan Pile Driving, Inc. in its dredging efforts alongside Battleship USS ALABAMA (BB-60).

The Mobile based company, with the recommendation of engineers from David Volkert & Associates, Inc., has been removing soil from the starboard side of BB-60 in an attempt to slowly lower the battleship f4rom its current 4 degree list back down to a even keel sitaution. The dredge material is being stored on a barge and will be returned to the battleship's cofferdam upon completion.

If the names of Jordan Pile Driving and Volkert are familiar to Battleship supporters, they are the two firms that led the battleship' spectacular and award-winning hull restoration project in 2003.

The Park will reopen approximately 30 days after the ship becomes upright again. The Entrance building, which houses the Ticket Office as well as the Gift Shop and Galley, is currently being repaired. Repairs are currently on-going in the rest of the Park.

The concrete gangway which leads up to the battleship was destroyed in Katrina. Construction and placement of a replacement cannot take place until the ship positions itself at a position which probably will be slightly different from its original position for the past 41 years. Drawings are ready and construction should begin quickly after a definite position is achieved.

Please continue to watch this section for news. Every effort is being made to expediate this process as Battleship Memorial Park has no income while closed and receives no public funding for daily operations.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Michael H. Standart
Moderator
Username: mstandart

Post Number: 8710
Registered: 12-2000
Posted on Sunday, November 6, 2005 - 11:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I noticed in that article that there's an address where anyone interested in helping out can send contributions. I hope it's getting some use. The lack of income can prove to be a greater threat to this ship's continued survival then any hurricane.
Cordially,
Michael H. Standart
Equal Opportunity Curmudgeon
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Wayne Keen
Member
Username: dockeen

Post Number: 110
Registered: 7-2005
Posted on Sunday, November 6, 2005 - 3:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I wasn't sure that it was appropriate to keep that with the article that I posted. I first put it in, and then took it out.

Wayne
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Michael H. Standart
Moderator
Username: mstandart

Post Number: 8714
Registered: 12-2000
Posted on Monday, November 7, 2005 - 4:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Keeping it out was probably a good idea if only out of fairness to advertisers who pay for the priviledge on this site. I'd still encourage anyone who wants to make use of it to do so.
Cordially,
Michael H. Standart
Equal Opportunity Curmudgeon
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Wayne Keen
Member
Username: dockeen

Post Number: 173
Registered: 7-2005
Posted on Thursday, January 5, 2006 - 12:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

From here:
http://www.ussalabama.com/html/photos/index.php

FINALLY!! BATTLESHIP MEMORIAL PARK TO REOPEN JANUARY 9TH Wednesday, Dec 28, 2005

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

(December 28, 2005) Mobile, AL – After being closed more than 4 months due to immense damage from Hurricane Katrina, USS ALABAMA Battleship Memorial Park will hold a Grand Re-opening Ceremony and Press Conference at 9:00 am on Monday, January 9, 2006. Commission Chairman Robert Edington of Mobile made the announcement.

This is a special day, as it is also the 41st anniversary of Battleship Memorial Park opening to the public in 1965. Over 12 million visitors have visited USS ALABAMA Battleship Memorial Park in the past forty one years.

It is also the 59th anniversary of the decommissioning of Battleship ALABAMA whic occurred in Bremerton, Washington on January 9, 1947.

Battleship USS ALABAMA and the Submarine USS DRUM will be open for touring and most of the aircraft, although still damaged and unrepaired, are also able to be viewed in the parking lot.

The public is encouraged to visit Battleship Memorial Park to see first hand, the effects of Hurricane Katrina, and also witness the rebuilding efforts that are ongoing bringing Battleship Memorial Park back to life. In the 41 years that the park has been open, never has Battleship Memorial Park experienced such devastation.

USS ALABAMA Battleship Memorial Park is an independent agency of the State of Alabama, and is totally self-supporting for daily operations. Being closed for the last four months, Battleship Memorial Park has had a loss of revenue close to $700,000. Reports show that repairs will cost in excess of $4 million. Coupled with an anticipated $500,000 short fall in insurance coverage, the Park will suffer a total loss of more than $1.2 million dollars.

Battleship Memorial Park serves as a memorial to all men and women who have or are serving in the Armed Forces of the United States. Battleship Memorial Park is also one of the top tourist attractions in the State of Alabama and in the City of Mobile. “The reopening of USS ALABAMA Battleship Memorial Park brings back one of Mobile Bay’s signature attractions to our visitors and shows that Mobile Bay is truly wide open for business” said Leon Maisel, President of the Mobile Bay Convention and Visitors Bureau.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Michael H. Standart
Moderator
Username: mstandart

Post Number: 9140
Registered: 12-2000
Posted on Thursday, January 5, 2006 - 4:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Good news here. I hope the re-opening will bring in lots of revenue from admissions and extra donations. Some of those losses, particularly of the historic aircraft, will probably never be made good.
Cordially,
Michael H. Standart
Equal Opportunity Curmudgeon
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Wayne Keen
Member
Username: dockeen

Post Number: 176
Registered: 7-2005
Posted on Thursday, January 5, 2006 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I suspect a lot of the early days of being "open" will also serve to push the fund raising for recovery efforts - when people see how bad things still are.

I am thinking about taking my son soon. He loves going there.

Wayne
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Michael H. Standart
Moderator
Username: mstandart

Post Number: 9150
Registered: 12-2000
Posted on Thursday, January 5, 2006 - 7:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I enjoyed that ship when I paid a visit to here back in 1989. Took me a couple of hours to get there from New Orleans but it was well worth the trip. I've since been aboard the North Carolina and I had a look at both the New Jersey and the Missouri during their final commissions.
Cordially,
Michael H. Standart
Equal Opportunity Curmudgeon
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Wayne Keen
Member
Username: dockeen

Post Number: 177
Registered: 7-2005
Posted on Friday, January 6, 2006 - 1:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

When my son and I were coming back from visiting my mother around Thanksgiving, we noticed that section of the entrance ramp to I-10 that one would use to go from the museum onto the interstate going east were still knocked out of place.

Wayne
Add Your Message Here
Post:
Username: Posting Information:
This is a private posting area. Only registered users and moderators may post messages here.
Password:
Options: Enable HTML code in message
Automatically activate URLs in message
Action:
Topics | Last Day | Last Week | Tree View | Search | User List | Help/Instructions Administration

Add Content
Message Board
Email Updates and News
RSS
Store
Encyclopedia Titanica
Terms of Use | Permissions | Contact Us | Privacy Policy
© 1996-2009 Encyclopedia Titanica
 
SitemapEmail UpdatesTitanic News
Passenger ListCrew ListSurvivorsVictimsOther Groups
Titanic Research ArticlesBook Reviews
Topics Search Instructions Rules Formatting Help Contact Moderators
Become an Editor How to Contribute Add a Story Add a Picture Add an Article Manage Contributions
Books Auctions
Register Update Profile Login Lost Password Logout