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The sinking of the Seabreeze 1

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    In 1999 there was a groovy TIS cruise from NY to Halifax on the Premier cruise ship the
    "Seabreeze 1".
    She was an older ship, had a handful of names in her lifetime.

    Premier went belly up in 2000, and the seabreeze 1 sank in a storm off the Carolina's after taking water. (with no loss of life).

    I beleive she had been built for the Italian line around the same time as the Andrea Doria.
    Does anyone have any inormation on the early life of the Seabreeze 1.

    For starters, where and when was she launched,
    and what was her original name?
    Im still amazed my small cabin is now 5000 feet down..

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    tarn Stephanos

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    Tarn,

    She started life as Costa Line's Federico C back in 1958.

    http://www.timetableimages.com/marit...s/costa66i.htm

    Regards,
    Scott Andrews

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    Thank you Scott!
    Here is another question..Within the last 15 tears, a two funneled liner, I beleive once of the America line sank en route to a middle eastern scrapyard..
    The sinking photos were the most dramtic Ive seen.
    Does that ring any bells?
    Thanks again

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    tarn Stephanos

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    I think your thinking of the America, a 33,000 GRT ship. she was troopship during WW2, her troopship name was West Point. unless your thinking of a ship from another american line, (Example, American Exports Line, Dollar Line, Mattson Line)

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    Tarn,

    There are two possibilities that come to mind given the description. The first, as Jesse notes, was the former United States Line's America (1940), which last served as the Chandris Line's Australis:

    http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/dgriff/index.html

    The second, which last served as Chandris Line's Britanis, began her career as the Matson Line's Monterey back in 1932:

    http://www.ports.co.za/didyouknow/ar...2_31_2635.html

    http://www.rhmsamerikanis.co.uk/mywe...is-sinking.htm

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    Tarn, here's a bit more on Seabreeze I.

    Built by Ansaldo in Genoa, 1958. Original name possibly Starship Royale.

    IMO 5113230.
    184.61m LOA.
    24.06m Beam.
    8.84m Draft.
    Speed 20 knots.
    5,671 dwt
    15,483 GRT.
    Dave Gittins
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    http://titanicebook.com/Book.html

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    Hi Dave,

    The SeaBreeze was originally built as the Federico C for the Costa Line:

    http://www.simplonpc.co.uk/CostaJPEGS/FedericoC_02.jpg

    Starship Royale was the ship's name while under Premier Cruise Line's ownership from 1983 to 1988:

    http://www.simplonpc.co.uk/PremierJP...ipRoyale01.jpg

    In 1988, the ship was sold to Dolphin and renamed SeaBreeze:

    http://www.simplonpc.co.uk/PremierJP...01_Dolphin.jpg

    She retained this name when Dolphin was later absorbed by Premier:

    http://www.simplonpc.co.uk/PremierJPEGs/SeaBreeze02.jpg

    The links with take you directly to postcard images on the Simplon Postcard website.

    regards,
    Scott Andrews

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    Thanks Scott.
    It was the Monterey i was thinking about...
    Those photos are breathtaking...

    Thank you very much, Dave for the additional Seabreeze info...

    I have nice photos of the Seabreeze from the 99' TI cruise to Halifax, and would attach them to this thread, If I knew how..

    There was a watertight door outside my cabin, which I suspect is closed today....

    Since she is now on the sea floor, I dont feel guilty anymore for clogging the toilet...

    Regards

    Tarn Stephanos

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    im just wondering, what were the dimensions of the ship? thanks,

    jm

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    Shame Tarn! You clogged the toilet, it overflowed, and sank!

    To quote the Cameron movie "Woops. Somebody left to water running!"


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    surfing the web, I was trying to discover where was now "my" ship: I was embarked as purser on the FEDERICO C in the years 1975 and 1976. What a shame to discover that she sunked more then three years ago (after having been sold and becoming SEABREEZE)!

    Want have a look to my cabin at that time?
    http://www.fortuneitaly.it/paolo/nave_01.jpg

    And to my job:
    http://www.fortuneitaly.it/paolo/nave_02.jpg

    great times!

    Paolo




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    wow! thanks for sharing that!

    welcome to this board!

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    Wow-thoose photos of the Britanis are amazing. From the looks of it, no one was aboard as none of the lifeboats were lowered or in the process of being lowered.

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    Welcome to ET Indo!
    The Federico-C/Seabreeze was a lovely ship, even in 2000.
    You must have wonderful memories, having been a member of her crew.
    And you had a very groovy cabin I must say..

    After Premeier Crusise lines went bankrupt, the Seabreeze (formally the Federico C) was tied up here in Boston and sat here for a couple weeks.
    I was working as a deck hand on a Boston harbor ferry boat, and saw her every day. It was the time of the Tall Ships 2000 extravaganza, and she was moored in front of the enormous American aircraft carrier the USS John F Kennedy.
    I remember how the carrier dwarfed the small liner in size...

    Then one day I noticed the Seabreeze was gone, and a few days later read the news she sank.....

    I am still kicking myself for not photographing her when she was in Boston....

    My cruise on the Seabreeze in 1999 (On the TI cruise to halifax) was a wonderful experince...
    Next time I get access to a scanner, I will post some pictures i snapped on board...

    Indo, do you have any other Federico-C/Seabreeze photos you'd be willing to share?

    regards


    Tarn Stephanos

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    Okay...Im about to poste some photos I snapped of the Seabreeze, in 1999, during the TI cruise to Halifax.
    Moderators, if these pics are too big, let me know....I hope I do this right...
    If they are too big, and you need to fiddle wth them,feel free.
    When you see each picture, keep it in your mind this ship is now resting 5000 feet down at the bottom of the Atlantic ocean.....

    Here is the Seabreeze in NY at her pier....
    Notice the funnel beyound..It looks like a fellow older liner..
    Ant thories what ship that funnel belonged to?

    This picture was taken at the end of the cruise..after we got back from Halifax.
    Regards


    Tarn Stephanos


    ps- if anyone wants to use these pics, be my guest


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    Here is a shot of Seabreeze's promenade





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    On Seabreeze's deck...
    We moored next a liner whose funnel would give Sigmund Freuud nightmares...

    Regards


    Tarn Stephanos

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    Seabreeze's single funnel....



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    Here a glimpse looking down that main staircse shaft during the boat drill..


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    A nook on deck near the lifeboat...
    Note the brass trim around the porthole.


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    I was in the bottom of the ship...
    My cabin, 1st door on the left..
    And my cabin...all that fit in there was my bed..
    And around the corner was a watertight door, no doubt closed today..




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    Leaving NYC...Notice the World Trade Center...
    Also the ship aft of us was on her maiden voyage (of so they said...).

    I made it to the rail seperating the passenger deck to the bridge area...Nice hardwood...
    Im sure those plants are now dead...

    And down on the bow, looking up at the bridge....




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    Here a shot of me under the bridge, and two snaps of the forepeak...
    Imagine this view when the Seabreeze plunged to the sea floor......




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    This was a cruise celebrating Titanic International society's 10th anniversary, so we all sat together in the dining room. We had a good turnout.
    Here is a snap of Mike Findlay and me in the dining room, with an interesting crew member in between us...
    The dining room was nice, I wish I had taken a picture of it...
    Here is a snap looking forward, the funnels directly ahead...

    And here is a shot of the tip of Seabreeze's stern. This was moments after the official TI group photo was taken, that adored the cover of the 10th year anniversary issue of TIs journal "Voyage".

    It was from this exact spot on ther stern the crew of Seabreeze were airlifted off the sinking ship the following year...




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    Here are a few snaps of the Seabreeze I snapped from the tender that took us ashore in Halifax...





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    And back in New York...
    As you can tell, the Seabreeze was a small ship, an Italian liner from the late 1950s, a speck compared to the QM2 in size, but I found her to be a very pleasent ship, and very comfortable.
    My cabin was in steerage, but I wandered every deck...

    Her decor was quite nice in some areas, plain in others, and I found the staff, as well as my TI friends, to be enjoyable traveleing companions....

    For those of you who know Roy Mengot, a highlight of the cruise was down in the Disco, where Roy unleashed moves on the disco floor that would make John Travolta blush with envy....
    I never laughed so hard in my life...


    Lovely ship, but she now "sleeps with the fishes".

    I last saw her tied up in Boston in Dec. 2000, the week she went down....

    I hope I havent bored anyone with this thread...

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    Tarn Stephanos



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    Nice pics, Tarn. I've seen some others from the '99 TIS cruise and I think Seabreeze I, while smaller and on the back end of a long career, had some nice features. The wood used onboard was particularly nice, I think.

    Glad you have good memories of your voyage on her. It must be strange to know that she lies on the bottom!

    Denise

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    Thanks for sharing your pictures.

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    Thanks for posting these pictures - they make me nostalgic for Dolphin Cruises and their vintage, but well maintained, ships. The crew on Dolphin used to knock themselves out to provide good service, in a way which puts the staff on many present day Premium Class liners to shame, and the ships although old always seemed to be exceptionally clean.

    >We moored next a liner whose funnel would give Sigmund Freuud nightmares...

    That would be either the Horizon or the Zenith from Celebrity. Have been on them close to a dozen times without complaint- funny thing is, at the time of their maiden seasons (1990/92, I believe) their 176' standard cabins were considerably larger than the industry norm, and now 15 years later the ships are said to be in their final 'premium' seasons before being sold off, with inadequate cabins being the chief passenger complaint.

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    Glad you liked them.
    Hope the pics were not too big..

    Are there any other liners of sebreeze's age still afloat?

    How about the "island Breeze"?

    How old is she?

    regards


    Tarn Stephanos

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    >Are there any other liners of Sesbreeze's age still afloat?

    Regal Empress- originally Olympia ( ca1953)
    Augustus (ca 1951)
    Rotterdam (1959)
    Independence (mid 1950s)
    Stockholm (1948)

    are a few which come to mind.

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    Has a definate reason been established as to how she sank? It just seems so fishy- Premier Cruise lines went bust, and the Seabreeze went under when being towned down south- im curious if there was any kind of insurance scam....
    She was tied up in Boston in the summer and fall of of 2000, the year of her death- at that time Boston was home to the Tall Ships- The enormous aircraft carrier 'John F Kennedy' was tied up nearby- I remember that summer, when working on a Boston harbor ferry boat, comparing the size of the 2 ships-
    One day the Seabreeze was gone- next thing I heard she had gone down....

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    When the Seabreeze sank, the skeleton crew barely escaped with their lives.I've seen the rescue and the coast guard squad out of Elizabeth city N.C would attest to that.Not too fishy but if no casualties are concerned, a cruise line would rather get a ships current insurance value than it's scrap metal value.Salvaging a vessel to investigate cause would exceed both values many times over and would still not guarantee determination of cause. A settlement will be granted. Classic case - Sun Vista (ex Meridian),Beautiful older fuel guzzling ship with an insurance value of 52 million usd VS 5 million scrap -Deal or no Deal? Get the passengers in the lifeboats first -Deal.

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    Thanks for the info Glenn.
    I wonder what became of the other liners of the bankrupt Premier Cruise lines....
    Its still a very eerie feeling knowing a ship whose corridors I explored is now on the sea floor...

    regards

    Tarn Stephanos

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    Where did the SeaBreeze sink at? I mean, what are the coordinates? Also, anybody know where the SS Galileo Galilei is at?

    Regal Empress- originally Olympia (ca 1953)
    Augustus (ca 1951)
    Rotterdam (1959)
    Independence (mid 1950s)
    Stockholm (1948)


    In September 2008, Regal Empress was removed from service to be used as an aid in the recovery of the aftermath of Hurricane Ike. She is currently laid up in Texas. She will be out of service until further notice. (according to wikipedia) Sounds like a temporary thing.

    Independence has dropped from sight. (Any updates on that? I heard it was in Dubai but its sketchy.)

 

 

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