Mrs Madeleine Talmage Astor (née Force)

Madeleine Talmage Astor

Mrs John Jacob Astor (Madeleine Force), 18, was the wife of millionaire John Jacob Astor , they had been on an extended honeymoon in Egypt and Paris and, in the spring of 1912, decided to return to America as First Class passengers on board the brand new Titanic .

They boarded the Titanic at Cherbourg with Colonel Astor's manservant Mr Victor Robbins , Mrs Astor's maid Miss Rosalie Bidois and their pet Airedale Kitty. Also accompanying the Astors was Mrs Astor's private nurse Miss Caroline Louise Endres .

After the accident Colonel Astor left his suite to investigate, he quickly returned and reported to Madeleine that the ship had struck ice. He reassured her that the damage did not appear serious.

Later as they waited on the boat deck , Mrs Astor lent Leah Aks her shawl to keep her son Filly warm. At one point the Astors retired to the gymnasium and sat on the mechanical horses. They wore their lifebelts but Colonel Astor had found another and cut the lining with a pen knife to show his wife what it was made of. Colonel and Mrs Astor later moved down to A-Deck from where Mrs Astor boarded lifeboat 4 aided by her husband and Second Officer Charles Lightoller .

Madeleine inherited from her husband the income from a five-million-dollar trust fund and the use of his home on Fifth Avenue and in the Newport so long as she did not marry. In August 1912, she gave birth to a son with whom she was pregnant on the Titanic , and she named him after her husband, John Jacob Astor.

During World War one She married William K. Dick (and relinquished all claim to the Astor fortune) who was born in Brooklyn, New York on May 28, 1888. They had two sons, William F. and John H. Dick. Mr Dick was a prominent corporate official in companies such as St. Regis Paper Company, Best Foods, Inc., Irving Trust Company, and St. Regis Timber Company. They divorced in 1933 in Reno, Nevada. After their divorce Mr Dick married Virginia Montez Conner on December 24, 1941 and had a daughter and a son. He died at Allen Winden Farm, Islip, New York on September 5, 1953.

Madeleine went on to marry prize-fighter Enzo Fiermonte but they too divorced in 1938 and she took back the surname Dick. She died in Palm Beach, Florida in 1940 at the age of 47.

Notes
John Jacob Astor V was born on the 14 August 1912. He first married Ellen Tuck and had two children, William and Jacqueline. After a divorce he married Gertrude Gretch, and after they divorced, he married Sue Sandford. That marriage endured until Sue's death. John J. Astor, V died in Miami Beach, Florida on June 26, 1992 at the age of 79.

References and Sources
The Palm Beach Times (Florida), Obituary
State of Florida Certificate of Death
The Miami Herald (Florida), June 28 1992, Obituary of John Jacob Astor V
State of Florida Certificate of Death (John Jacob Astor V)
John P. Eaton & Charles A. Haas (1994) Titanic: Triumph & Tragedy , 2nd ed. Patrick Stephens Ltd. ISBN 1 85260 493 X
Don Lynch & Ken Marschall (1992) Titanic: An Illustrated History . London, Hodder & Stoughton. ISBN 0 340 56271 4
Contract Ticket List , White Star Line 1912 (National Archives, New York; NRAN-21-SDNYCIVCAS-55[279])

Credits
Hermann Sldner, Germany
George Behe, USA
Phillip Gowan, USA

Pictures

Mrs. Astor's Residence, Newport, R. I.

MRS. ASTOR'S RESIDENCE, NEWPORT, R. I.

 
Portrait of Madeleine Force Astor in mourning

(1912) 

PORTRAIT OF MADELEINE FORCE ASTOR IN MOURNING

 
John Jacob and Madeleine Astor on their honeymoon

(1911) 

JOHN JACOB AND MADELEINE ASTOR ON THEIR HONEYMOON

 
Madeleine Force Astor riding in Central Park, New York City

(1914) 

MADELEINE FORCE ASTOR RIDING IN CENTRAL PARK, NEW YORK CITY

 
News photo of Madeleine Force Astor walking on Fifth Avenue, taken shortly after her marriage

(1911) 

NEWS PHOTO OF MADELEINE FORCE ASTOR WALKING ON FIFTH AVENUE, TAKEN SHORTLY AFTER HER MARRIAGE

 
Mrs. Astor's life vest

MRS. ASTOR'S LIFE VEST

 
Astor says: We'll Meet in New York

(1912) 

ASTOR SAYS: WE'LL MEET IN NEW YORK

 
The Astors

(1912) 

THE ASTORS

 
Madeleine Astor Force

(1912) 

MADELEINE ASTOR FORCE

 
Lucien P. Smith's December baby

(1912) 

LUCIEN P. SMITH'S DECEMBER BABY

 
MRS. JOHN JACOB ASTOR

(1912) 

MRS. JOHN JACOB ASTOR

 
MRS. JOHN JACOB ASTOR

(1912) 

MRS. JOHN JACOB ASTOR

 
Madeleine Astor

(1911) 

MADELEINE ASTOR

 
Mrs. Astor riding in Central Park

(1914) 

MRS. ASTOR RIDING IN CENTRAL PARK

 
Mrs. Astor on her morning trot through Central Park

(1915) 

MRS. ASTOR ON HER MORNING TROT THROUGH CENTRAL PARK

 
Madeleine Astor with stepson Vincent

(1915) 

MADELEINE ASTOR WITH STEPSON VINCENT

 

Articles and Stories

Wife Would Aid Fiermonte

New York Times  (1935) 

WIFE WOULD AID FIERMONTE

 
Still Playing As Water Creeps Up

Worcester Evening Gazette  (1912) 

STILL PLAYING AS WATER CREEPS UP

 
Fiermonte Threatens Divorce

New York Times  (1934) 

FIERMONTE THREATENS DIVORCE

 
MRS. DICK RETURNS; CARRIED TO HOSPITAL

New York Times  (1933) 

MRS. DICK RETURNS; CARRIED TO HOSPITAL

 
ASTOR WILL CONTEST NOT CONTEMPLATED

New York Times  (1912) 

ASTOR WILL CONTEST NOT CONTEMPLATED

 
EILEEN GILLESPIE NOT TO WED ASTOR

New York Times  (1934) 

EILEEN GILLESPIE NOT TO WED ASTOR

 
ELLEN TUCK FRENCH IS ENGAGED TO WED

New York Times  (1934) 

ELLEN TUCK FRENCH IS ENGAGED TO WED

 
MRS. DICK GETS DIVORCE

New York Times  (1933) 

MRS. DICK GETS DIVORCE

 
BIG CROWD SAILS TO-DAY

New York Times  (1912) 

BIG CROWD SAILS TO-DAY

 
COL. ASTOR MAY WED ANY DAY

New York Times  (1911) 

COL. ASTOR MAY WED ANY DAY

 
COL. ASTOR IN TENNIS MATCH

The New York Times  (1911) 

COL. ASTOR IN TENNIS MATCH

 
ASTOR WEDDING DAY NOT SET

New York Times  (1911) 

ASTOR WEDDING DAY NOT SET

 
SUMMONS FOR FIERMONTE

New York Times  (1937) 

SUMMONS FOR FIERMONTE

 
JOHN JACOB ASTOR WEDS ELLEN FRENCH

New York Times  (1934) 

JOHN JACOB ASTOR WEDS ELLEN FRENCH

 
Walter Porter Among Those on Titanic

Worcester Telegram  (1912) 

WALTER PORTER AMONG THOSE ON TITANIC

 
NO ALARM FELT WHEN STEAMER FIRST STRUCK

Washington Times  (1912) 

NO ALARM FELT WHEN STEAMER FIRST STRUCK

 
Mrs Nasrallah writes to Mrs Astor

Fort Wayne News  (1912) 

MRS NASRALLAH WRITES TO MRS ASTOR

 
BOXER SAYS MRS. DICK WILL WED HIM SOON

New York Times  (1933) 

BOXER SAYS MRS. DICK WILL WED HIM SOON

 
Mrs. Astor

New York Times  (1912) 

MRS. ASTOR

 
EX-WIFE GIVES UP CLAIM ON W. K. DICK

New York Times  (1934) 

EX-WIFE GIVES UP CLAIM ON W. K. DICK

 
LINKS MRS. DICK AND BOXER

New York Times  (1933) 

LINKS MRS. DICK AND BOXER

 
ASTOR BEQUESTS HAVE ALL BEEN PAID

New York Times  (1914) 

ASTOR BEQUESTS HAVE ALL BEEN PAID

 
TRIBUTE TO J. C. SMITH

New York Times  (1912) 

TRIBUTE TO J. C. SMITH

 
John Jacob Astor 3d, 21, Comes Info Vast Fortune

New York Times  (1933) 

JOHN JACOB ASTOR 3D, 21, COMES INFO VAST FORTUNE

 
JOHN JACOB ASTOR TO WED DEBUTANTE

New York Times  (1933) 

JOHN JACOB ASTOR TO WED DEBUTANTE

 
MRS. ASTOR IN NO DANGER

The New York Times  (1912) 

MRS. ASTOR IN NO DANGER

 
Astor's Old Butler a Hero

Unidentified Newspaper  (1912) 

ASTOR'S OLD BUTLER A HERO

 
MRS. FIERMONTE SUES

New York Times  (1938) 

MRS. FIERMONTE SUES

 
CALLS MRS. ASTOR HEROINE

Cook County Herald  (1912) 

CALLS MRS. ASTOR HEROINE

 
FIERMONTE GETS DIVORCE

New York Times  (1933) 

FIERMONTE GETS DIVORCE

 
The Unmarked Crypt

THE UNMARKED CRYPT

 
ASTORS SAIL FOR EGYPT

New-York Tribune  (1912) 

ASTORS SAIL FOR EGYPT

 
COL. ASTOR'S FUNERAL

New York Times  (1912) 

COL. ASTOR'S FUNERAL

 
COLONEL ASTOR'S WILL

The Times  (1912) 

COLONEL ASTOR'S WILL

 
 Third Widow, Due to Titanic Wreck, Becomes a Mother

The Washington Herald  (1912) 

THIRD WIDOW, DUE TO TITANIC WRECK, BECOMES A MOTHER

 
WOMEN REVEALED AS HEROINES BY WRECK

New York Times  (1912) 

WOMEN REVEALED AS HEROINES BY WRECK

 
WILLIAM DICK DIES; AN INDUSTRIALIST

New York Times  (1953) 

WILLIAM DICK DIES; AN INDUSTRIALIST

 
ISMAY CONDEMNED FOR TAKING BOAT

Washington Times  (1912) 

ISMAY CONDEMNED FOR TAKING BOAT

 
FIERMONTE, BOXER, HERE

New York Times  (1933) 

FIERMONTE, BOXER, HERE

 
PASTOR IS CONGRATULATED

New York Times  (1911) 

PASTOR IS CONGRATULATED

 
NO HOPE FOR MORE SURVIVORS

Worcester Evening Post  (1912) 

NO HOPE FOR MORE SURVIVORS

 
CAPT. ROSTRON GUEST OF MRS. J. B. THAYER

New York Times  (1912) 

CAPT. ROSTRON GUEST OF MRS. J. B. THAYER

 
YOUNG ASTOR TELLS OF WEDDING PLANS

New York Times  (1934) 

YOUNG ASTOR TELLS OF WEDDING PLANS

 
AN ATLANTIC MAN FINDS EVIDENCE FAVORING ISMAY

Atlantic City Daily Press  (1912) 

AN ATLANTIC MAN FINDS EVIDENCE FAVORING ISMAY

 
CLERICAL CARPENTER TO MARRY COL. ASTOR

New York Times  (1911) 

CLERICAL CARPENTER TO MARRY COL. ASTOR

 
Astor Put Boy By Wife's Side

Worcester Evening Gazette  (1912) 

ASTOR PUT BOY BY WIFE'S SIDE

 
MRS. DICK'S ESTATE LEFT TO 2 OF SONS

New York Times  (1940) 

MRS. DICK'S ESTATE LEFT TO 2 OF SONS

 
SUE COL. ASTOR FOR $30,000

The New York Times  (1911) 

SUE COL. ASTOR FOR $30,000

 
LAST MAN TO LEAVE TITANIC WAS COLONEL GRACIE, U.S.A.

The Toronto Daily Star  (1912) 

LAST MAN TO LEAVE TITANIC WAS COLONEL GRACIE, U.S.A.

 
ISMAY LEFT SHIP AT WOMEN'S PLEA

Washington Herald  (1912) 

ISMAY LEFT SHIP AT WOMEN'S PLEA

 
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