Mrs Madeleine Talmage Astor (née Force)

Madeleine Talmage Astor

Mrs John Jacob Astor (Madeleine Force), 18, was the wife of millionaire John Jacob Astor , they had been on an extended honeymoon in Egypt and Paris and, in the spring of 1912, decided to return to America as First Class passengers on board the brand new Titanic .

They boarded the Titanic at Cherbourg with Colonel Astor's manservant Mr Victor Robbins , Mrs Astor's maid Miss Rosalie Bidois and their pet Airedale Kitty. Also accompanying the Astors was Mrs Astor's private nurse Miss Caroline Louise Endres .

After the accident Colonel Astor left his suite to investigate, he quickly returned and reported to Madeleine that the ship had struck ice. He reassured her that the damage did not appear serious.

Later as they waited on the boat deck , Mrs Astor lent Leah Aks her shawl to keep her son Filly warm. At one point the Astors retired to the gymnasium and sat on the mechanical horses. They wore their lifebelts but Colonel Astor had found another and cut the lining with a pen knife to show his wife what it was made of. Colonel and Mrs Astor later moved down to A-Deck from where Mrs Astor boarded lifeboat 4 aided by her husband and Second Officer Charles Lightoller .

Madeleine inherited from her husband the income from a five-million-dollar trust fund and the use of his home on Fifth Avenue and in the Newport so long as she did not marry. In August 1912, she gave birth to a son with whom she was pregnant on the Titanic , and she named him after her husband, John Jacob Astor.

During World War one She married William K. Dick (and relinquished all claim to the Astor fortune) who was born in Brooklyn, New York on May 28, 1888. They had two sons, William F. and John H. Dick. Mr Dick was a prominent corporate official in companies such as St. Regis Paper Company, Best Foods, Inc., Irving Trust Company, and St. Regis Timber Company. They divorced in 1933 in Reno, Nevada. After their divorce Mr Dick married Virginia Montez Conner on December 24, 1941 and had a daughter and a son. He died at Allen Winden Farm, Islip, New York on September 5, 1953.

Madeleine went on to marry prize-fighter Enzo Fiermonte but they too divorced in 1938 and she took back the surname Dick. She died in Palm Beach, Florida in 1940 at the age of 47.

Notes
John Jacob Astor V was born on the 14 August 1912. He first married Ellen Tuck and had two children, William and Jacqueline. After a divorce he married Gertrude Gretch, and after they divorced, he married Sue Sandford. That marriage endured until Sue's death. John J. Astor, V died in Miami Beach, Florida on June 26, 1992 at the age of 79.

References and Sources
The Palm Beach Times (Florida), Obituary
State of Florida Certificate of Death
The Miami Herald (Florida), June 28 1992, Obituary of John Jacob Astor V
State of Florida Certificate of Death (John Jacob Astor V)
John P. Eaton & Charles A. Haas (1994) Titanic: Triumph & Tragedy , 2nd ed. Patrick Stephens Ltd. ISBN 1 85260 493 X
Don Lynch & Ken Marschall (1992) Titanic: An Illustrated History . London, Hodder & Stoughton. ISBN 0 340 56271 4
Contract Ticket List , White Star Line 1912 (National Archives, New York; NRAN-21-SDNYCIVCAS-55[279])

Credits
Hermann Sldner, Germany
George Behe, USA
Phillip Gowan, USA

Pictures

Mrs. Astor's Residence, Newport, R. I.

MRS. ASTOR'S RESIDENCE, NEWPORT, R. I.

 
Portrait of Madeleine Force Astor in mourning

(1912) 

PORTRAIT OF MADELEINE FORCE ASTOR IN MOURNING

 
John Jacob and Madeleine Astor on their honeymoon

(1911) 

JOHN JACOB AND MADELEINE ASTOR ON THEIR HONEYMOON

 
Madeleine Force Astor riding in Central Park, New York City

(1914) 

MADELEINE FORCE ASTOR RIDING IN CENTRAL PARK, NEW YORK CITY

 
News photo of Madeleine Force Astor walking on Fifth Avenue, taken shortly after her marriage

(1911) 

NEWS PHOTO OF MADELEINE FORCE ASTOR WALKING ON FIFTH AVENUE, TAKEN SHORTLY AFTER HER MARRIAGE

 
Mrs. Astor's life vest

MRS. ASTOR'S LIFE VEST

 
Astor says: We'll Meet in New York

(1912) 

ASTOR SAYS: WE'LL MEET IN NEW YORK

 
The Astors

(1912) 

THE ASTORS

 
Madeleine Astor Force

(1912) 

MADELEINE ASTOR FORCE

 
Lucien P. Smith's December baby

(1912) 

LUCIEN P. SMITH'S DECEMBER BABY

 
MRS. JOHN JACOB ASTOR

(1912) 

MRS. JOHN JACOB ASTOR

 
MRS. JOHN JACOB ASTOR

(1912) 

MRS. JOHN JACOB ASTOR

 
Madeleine Astor

(1911) 

MADELEINE ASTOR

 
Mrs. Astor riding in Central Park

(1914) 

MRS. ASTOR RIDING IN CENTRAL PARK

 
Mrs. Astor on her morning trot through Central Park

(1915) 

MRS. ASTOR ON HER MORNING TROT THROUGH CENTRAL PARK

 
Madeleine Astor with stepson Vincent

(1915) 

MADELEINE ASTOR WITH STEPSON VINCENT

 

Articles and Stories

MRS. DICK GOES TO RENO

New York Times  (1933) 

MRS. DICK GOES TO RENO

 
AN ATLANTIC MAN FINDS EVIDENCE FAVORING ISMAY

Atlantic City Daily Press  (1912) 

AN ATLANTIC MAN FINDS EVIDENCE FAVORING ISMAY

 
ASTORS SAIL FOR EGYPT

New-York Tribune  (1912) 

ASTORS SAIL FOR EGYPT

 
Virginia M. French Has Twelve Attendants At Her Marriage Here to William F. Dick

New York Times  (1941) 

VIRGINIA M. FRENCH HAS TWELVE ATTENDANTS AT HER MARRIAGE HERE TO WILLIAM F. DICK

 
SUE COL. ASTOR FOR $30,000

The New York Times  (1911) 

SUE COL. ASTOR FOR $30,000

 
Astor Villa Auctioned at Newport; Chain Drug Store Owner Is Buyer

New York Times  (1948) 

ASTOR VILLA AUCTIONED AT NEWPORT; CHAIN DRUG STORE OWNER IS BUYER

 
SON FOR MRS. ASTOR; NAMED FOR FATHER

New York Times  (1912) 

SON FOR MRS. ASTOR; NAMED FOR FATHER

 
COL. GRACIE DIES, HAUNTED BY TITANIC

New York Times  (1912) 

COL. GRACIE DIES, HAUNTED BY TITANIC

 
ASTOR INFANT CHRISTENED

New York Times  (1936) 

ASTOR INFANT CHRISTENED

 
MRS. FIERMONTE'S ESTATE

New York Times  (1941) 

MRS. FIERMONTE'S ESTATE

 
Hero of Titanic “Lifeboat 13,” Which Rescued Mrs. Astor, Dies

Hudson Dispatch  (1943) 

HERO OF TITANIC “LIFEBOAT 13,” WHICH RESCUED MRS. ASTOR, DIES

 
COLONEL ASTOR'S WILL

The Times  (1912) 

COLONEL ASTOR'S WILL

 
WM. K. DICK MARRIES MRS. VIRGINIA CONNER

New York Times  (1941) 

WM. K. DICK MARRIES MRS. VIRGINIA CONNER

 
BOXER DENIES HE'LL WED

New York Times  (1933) 

BOXER DENIES HE'LL WED

 
Still Playing As Water Creeps Up

Worcester Evening Gazette  (1912) 

STILL PLAYING AS WATER CREEPS UP

 
COL. GRACIE IS BURIED IN GARB WORN ON TITANIC

The Washington Times  (1912) 

COL. GRACIE IS BURIED IN GARB WORN ON TITANIC

 
EX-WIFE GIVES UP CLAIM ON W. K. DICK

New York Times  (1934) 

EX-WIFE GIVES UP CLAIM ON W. K. DICK

 
RECTORS FOR ASTOR RITES

New York Times  (1934) 

RECTORS FOR ASTOR RITES

 
ASTOR OFFERS $1,000 AS MARRIAGE FEE

New York Times  (1911) 

ASTOR OFFERS $1,000 AS MARRIAGE FEE

 
CALLS MRS. ASTOR HEROINE

Cook County Herald  (1912) 

CALLS MRS. ASTOR HEROINE

 
CAPT. ROSTRON GUEST OF MRS. J. B. THAYER

New York Times  (1912) 

CAPT. ROSTRON GUEST OF MRS. J. B. THAYER

 
Settles Suit Against Fiermonte

New York Times  (1937) 

SETTLES SUIT AGAINST FIERMONTE

 
ASTOR WILL CONTEST NOT CONTEMPLATED

New York Times  (1912) 

ASTOR WILL CONTEST NOT CONTEMPLATED

 
ALARMED COUNTY MAN FINDS SISTER WAS RESCUED

Atlantic City Daily Press  (1912) 

ALARMED COUNTY MAN FINDS SISTER WAS RESCUED

 
J. J. ASTOR ACTED BRAVELY, DECLARE MANY WHO SAW HIM

Washington Times  (1912) 

J. J. ASTOR ACTED BRAVELY, DECLARE MANY WHO SAW HIM

 
ISMAY CONDEMNED FOR TAKING BOAT

Washington Times  (1912) 

ISMAY CONDEMNED FOR TAKING BOAT

 
COL. ASTOR WEDS MADELEINE FORCE

New York Times  (1911) 

COL. ASTOR WEDS MADELEINE FORCE

 
FIERMONTES VISIT TIVOLI

New York Times  (1935) 

FIERMONTES VISIT TIVOLI

 
EILEEN S. S. GILLESPIE TO BE WED ON FEB. 6

New York Times  (1934) 

EILEEN S. S. GILLESPIE TO BE WED ON FEB. 6

 
Walter Porter Among Those on Titanic

Worcester Telegram  (1912) 

WALTER PORTER AMONG THOSE ON TITANIC

 
JOHN JACOB ASTOR TO WED DEBUTANTE

New York Times  (1933) 

JOHN JACOB ASTOR TO WED DEBUTANTE

 
Second Titanic Baby Born

Chicago Examiner  (1912) 

SECOND TITANIC BABY BORN

 
FIERMONTE HALTED BY GENOA OFFICIALS

New York Times  (1935) 

FIERMONTE HALTED BY GENOA OFFICIALS

 
PASTOR IS CONGRATULATED

New York Times  (1911) 

PASTOR IS CONGRATULATED

 
MRS. ASTOR NEAR COLLAPSE AT PIER

Washington Herald  (1912) 

MRS. ASTOR NEAR COLLAPSE AT PIER

 
MRS. JOHN J. ASTOR 3D GIVES BIRTH TO SON

New York Times  (1935) 

MRS. JOHN J. ASTOR 3D GIVES BIRTH TO SON

 
FIERMONTE BUYS ESTATE

New York Times  (1935) 

FIERMONTE BUYS ESTATE

 
DIVORCE GRANTED FORMER MRS. ASTOR

New York Times  (1938) 

DIVORCE GRANTED FORMER MRS. ASTOR

 
Astor Put Boy By Wife's Side

Worcester Evening Gazette  (1912) 

ASTOR PUT BOY BY WIFE'S SIDE

 
ISMAY LEFT SHIP AT WOMEN'S PLEA

Washington Herald  (1912) 

ISMAY LEFT SHIP AT WOMEN'S PLEA

 
ASTOR HOME SCENE OF NEWPORT PARTY

New York Times  (1935) 

ASTOR HOME SCENE OF NEWPORT PARTY

 
BARBER THROWN FROM TITANIC AS IT SANK

North American  (1912) 

BARBER THROWN FROM TITANIC AS IT SANK

 
MET BY STEPSON

The Daily Banner  (1912) 

MET BY STEPSON

 
Italy Allows Fiermonte To Go on Wedding Trip

New York Times  (1935) 

ITALY ALLOWS FIERMONTE TO GO ON WEDDING TRIP

 
WEDDING PLANNED BY ELLEN FRENCH

New York Times  (1934) 

WEDDING PLANNED BY ELLEN FRENCH

 
FIERMONTE APOLOGIZES

New York Times  (1937) 

FIERMONTE APOLOGIZES

 
MRS. ASTOR ABLE TO GREET FAMILY

New York Evening Journal  (1912) 

MRS. ASTOR ABLE TO GREET FAMILY

 
MINISTER WHO WED ASTOR QUITS CHURCH

New York Times  (1911) 

MINISTER WHO WED ASTOR QUITS CHURCH

 
CLERICAL CARPENTER TO MARRY COL. ASTOR

New York Times  (1911) 

CLERICAL CARPENTER TO MARRY COL. ASTOR

 
ELLEN TUCK FRENCH IS ENGAGED TO WED

New York Times  (1934) 

ELLEN TUCK FRENCH IS ENGAGED TO WED

 
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