1st Class Smokeroom Windows

[Bob Read]

I was looking at rigging plans for both the RMS and HMHS versions of Britannic and noticed something new to me. The windows of the 1st Class Smokeroom are not the same pattern as those on Olympic and Titanic. I have no reference which documents the change. To me they look like the pattern for the flat sections
of the 1st Class Reading and Writing room. Anybody know anything about this?

Regards,
Bob Read

 

[Bob Read]

I believe I found the answer to my own question.
I found a Harland and Wolff artist's conception painting of Britannic's 1st Class Smokeroom that was labelled H-2151A.
In that painting it appears that the new design Smokeroom windows are essentially pattern E with
an additional row of panes. I am including a drawing of my own to illustrate what I believe I see in the H&W drawing.

http://webpages.charter.net/bpread/Britwin.JPG

 

[Nigel Bryant]

Thanks Bob,

Those drawings were very interesting. There seems to be quite a lot of things different on the Britannic compared to her older sisters.

Nigel

 

[Brian R Peterson]

The First Class Smoke Room on Britannic was to be modeled in Adams rather than Georgian, so the entire room would have been radically different than Olympic and Titanic, it would only be natural that the stained glass Renaissance style windows would be replaced to match the new decor as well.

Best Regards,

Brian

 

[Russell D. Wild]

Hello Bob,

On a related note, were you aware that the forward facing windows on A and B decks were also different to those on Olympic/Titanic? Namely there are less of them.

Regards,
Russell

 

[Bob Read]

Russell:
Interesting theory. Do you have any evidence?

Regards,
Bob Read

 

[Russell D. Wild]

Bob,

Just a quick note to let you know I sent you a private email regarding this.

Regards,
Russell

 

[Bob Read]

Rusell:
I didn't get the private e-mail.
Send to [email protected].
Any reason you can't post an answer here for all to see?
Regards,
Bob Read

 

[Russell D. Wild]

Hello Bob,

I was having problems figuring out how to upload images, but now I've got it sorted. So here's the message I sent to your Yahoo account...

"Attached is part of a photograph which shows that Britannic had 6 windows facing-forward at A-Deck, as opposed to the 10 on Olympic/Titanic. She also had only 4 forward-facing windows at B-Deck instead of 6; I have photographic proof of this too but I'm having trouble locating my scan at the moment.

I believe, from my previous research, that the windows were 'lost' because of re-arrangements to the bathrooms inside the vessel at these locations."

A higher quality version is available here:

Photograph 2

Regards,
Russell

 

[Bob Read]

Russell:
I had not looked into this area yet. You are correct. On A deck the areas where there are no windows they had a door there for access to a locker.

On B deck the windows which were removed (1 aside) were in the locations of lavatories.

Regards,
Bob Read

 

[Dan Cherry]

Russ,
it's good to see your name, again after such a long while!

Dan