No, and the bearings of the rockets did not change, they appeared to change. Only the bearing of the nearby vessel changed.Base solely on Stone's account, the diagram below is what he said he saw. (ship sizes are enlarged)
The problem with his story is that if the rockets came from Titanic, then the bearing to the rockets could not change. If, as Gibson said, the sidelight disappeared after the 7th rocket was seen, then the steamer had to remain close to the bearing of the rockets, to the SSE, until after the 8th rocket was seen. This means that this steamer could not have crossed the icefield until after the 8th and last rocket was seen, and then it had to cover a large distance of about 15 nautical miles (B to D) as shown for her to reach that position (D) shown SW 1/2 W by 2am. If that last rocket was seen at about 1:40pm, as Stone estimated, then for the steamer to reach the position in the SW 1/2 W at 2am as shown without exposing her green sidelight (as shown in the diagram), then she had to cover those 15 miles in 20 minutes (1:40 to 2:00am) which would mean a speed of 45 knots. That's pure nonsense.
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You live in a world of theory, Sam.
For start-off, a rocket was not seen at 00-45 am... just a flash.
An Officer using the standard Compass may well have mentally applied the error as a matter of form. Such bearings were usually converted before use. However, you cannot rely on the evidence regarding ships heading and consequently, bearings being True or Compass.
Gibson said he was told afterward that the ship's head was ENE at 12-20 am when the other vessel was abeam to starboard. That is no proof at all. Apart from it being nonsense, he does not say whether it was ENE Compass or True. If it was True, then contrary to sworn evidence, Californian's bow did not swing an inch from 10-21pm until 12-20 am, and here's why:
Stones said the ship was heading ENE...NE True by Standard Compass at 12-10am
Groves said the ship was heading ENE...NE True an hour before that, at 11-10 am.
Captain Lord said they were heading ENE...NE True at 10-21am when Californian finally stopped.
In fact, whether you like it or not, the only clear indications of how that nearby ship and the rockets were bearing from the stopped Californian was the true distress position of Titanic relative to the Log Book stopped position of the Californian, regardless of who worked it out.
I suggest to you that if Lord read in the Official Log Book a heading of ENE by Compass for the 10-30 pm stopped position, then the Scrap Log was incorrectly filled out by Groves when he went below after being relieved. Because Stewart would have copied that information into the Official Log Book on the morning of April 15 and subsequently, Lord was reading from the Official Log at the US Inquiry.
You show the nearby vessel heading North by compass. That is based on conjecture on your part, not on any evidence by Stone or anyone else and designed to fit the ENE Compass heading given by Stone.
Your map shows a compass rose. The sketch I posted simply shows a circle graduated in degrees.
OK! I made a mistake when laying off Stone's bearing of SW1/2 W.
SW 1/2 W on any Compass or a 360-degree north-up plotting circle is actually just over 230 1/2 degrees around from O - North. If that is indicated on the card of a Standard Compass and the error of that compass was 20 West, then the true bearing was 210 1/2 degrees.(SW xS 1/4S) on that same card.
The last rocket was not seen at the same time as the red light vanished. It was seen to have vanished between the 1st and 2nd rockets seen by Gibson. If that vessel was turning away from Californian, then at the moment the red light disappeared, she was heading due East. Therefore she did not, and could not have been changing her bearing to the right before that red light disappeared. In addition, to suggest it dipped below the horizon without anyone seeing a morse light blinking away right above it is ridiculous nonsense.
As I have pointed out to you numerous times - unless the vessel in question turned short-round, she would have changed her bearing initially to the left. Consequently, the bearing of that red light (if taken) must have been seen to alter to the left (not the right) sometime before rocket 6 was seen. Gibson would not have been on the bridge when the nearby vessel started to move at first. The bearing would have changed very slowly left, stop, then start to change equally slowly right. Imagine that, if you can. By the way, if the nearby vessel had been initially pointing NW as you believe, then her lights would most certainly have appeared very strange as she transited that right-hand slow turn away from observers on Californian.
Instead of theorising, I suggest you do as Aaron does... take a trip down to the lake shore on a very dark night and do some practical observations of ships lights. I think you might begin to "see the light". Start with 500 feet long vessel, 5 miles away, beam-on to you.
By the way, there is nothing "funny-peculiar" about me using 4 Miles, I used the evidence of Captain Lord, the most experienced observer and pointed out why, above.
Stone said the bearing changed from just after he saw the first signal. He indicated two directional changes and variable speeds up until 2 am when he said the bearing was changing fast at 2 am. Here is exactly what he said:
" I was watching the steamer by the compass with my binoculars... [The steamer altering her bearing] from the time I saw the first rocket.
- She bore first S.S.E. and she was altering her bearing towards the south [then] towards west. "
To alter toward the South is the first directional change and in this case, indicates a turn to the right. To alter towards the West is a subsequent alteration of direction. Even her Interrogator understood exactly what was being described:
"I lost sight of her red sidelight.
7944a. That would be consistent with her altering her heading? A: - Yes.
7961. (The Commissioner.) Can you give me an idea of the speed at which she was steaming away when these lights gradually disappeared? A: - No, it would be very difficult to express an opinion...- I should say that at different times she was going at different speeds.
Gibson said: "About twenty minutes past one the Second Officer remarked to me that she was slowly steaming away towards the south-west. Only in his April 18 statement to Captain Lord, does Stone use the expression "steaming away fast," and that was 40 minutes later.
If you use a 360-degree North-up plot circle, lay off True bearings of 157 degrees and 210 degrees and use Lord's 4-mile distance off, you will find that the nearby vessel made good a distance of about 12 miles from when she completed her turn until she finally vanished.
Here's something else which backs up Stone's evidence to a certain extent.:
You believe that Titanic's signals were fired over a period of 1 hour 3 minutes and that 8 were fired. That's an average firing rate of 9 minutes, Boxhall said about 5 minutes...a little over half your firing rate. Of course, Boxhall, like all the rest, was lying. Just the same as he was lying when he said he saw a moving vessel.
QM Rowe fired his signals over a period of 40 minutes, that's exactly 23 minutes less than your 63 minute firing period. To once again use your own expression...it's funny how the difference in firing periods is exactly 23 minutes..a share of Titanic's planned clock change.
It's funny that on an unaltered Californian clock, Row's first signal would have been fired at 00-57am Californian time. Yet on a Californian Clock altered to LMT, it would have been 00-47 am...exactly 10 minutes difference and about the time Stone saw his first "rocket". Don't you find it strange that if Rowe had fired 7 signals, the average firing rate would have been a little under 6 minutes very close to Boxhall's 5 minutes?
Now here's another thing. If Rowe had fired the first of 7 signals at 00-47am Californian time, and at Boxhall's 5-minute intervals, then the last signal...No.7 would have been seen at 1-22 am on the same altered clock. Shortly after that, Stone told Gibson the other vessel was steaming slowly away. Not only that, but the mystery vessel would have been seen changing her bearing to the right at or near to 01-21 am... an hour before that vessel finally disappeared. It would not have needed to make much more than the normal speed to disappear.
Finally, "Lord the liar" who was actually on the bridge of a ship that actually transited the pack ice at a very narrow diagonal angle ( S16W), told his questioners that the ice barrier was "I suppose about 26 miles long and from 1 to 2 miles wide." Not the 5 miles wide shown on your map.
I suspect you got that from the evidence of Captain Moore of the Mount Temple who was stopped on the west side and gauging the distance diagonally across the barrier toward the Carpathia.
Incidentally, Captain Rostron saw Californian to the WSW of the survivor pick up site. His ship was them about 3 or 4 miles east of the barrier. If Lord turned to cross the ice at 8 am and arrives at Carpathia at 8-30 am, then the barrier was about 2 miles wide at that point.
No doubt you'll tear this to bits... enjoy!
Edited to correct (I hope) some confusing quotation references. Jim, if this is not what you intended, feel free to let me know. MAB
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