Milos Grkovic
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In this post I'll be talking about my latest find of what ship was filmed leaving dock and who was the owner.
First of, let's start with the British Pathe's newsreel of this vessel from the short documenary, Titanic: The Facts told by Real Survivors and even found its way in A Night to Remember departure scene. This ship was often contributed as Lusitania, but the stern doesn't seem to match the one of hers. This is also a part that Dan Parkes discussed in his research about the Olympic class films from 1908 to 1937, as well as him making a full length movie version of that time period.
On his website, I'll quote this bit in which he only mentioned this unknown vessel (highlighted in red), excluding the right shot of Lusitania.
Some newsreels also include the above two shots, both of which are neither Titanic or Olympic class ships. The shot on the left of crowds waving goodbye to a ship departing is of ship that is yet to be identified. The ship on the right is most likely the SS Lusitania.
Going back to the not-yet-identifed ship departing, there are others who also tried, but ended up finding anything. There was one person in Titanic Animations Discord server who wanted to find the name of the ship, but the discussion didn't continue and the person left. After that, I came along and decided to tackle this mystery by myself going through each shipping line and trying to match the stern as we've never seen the front of the vessel.
The arrangement of every ship how the research has been going up to now, was out order in regards to: American line ships to now Aberdeen Line.
Yesterday, on 20th April, I was looking through the passenger ocean liners list at:
and found the passenger/cargo ship S.S. Demosthenes among the liners that began service in 1911. So I went through the details of both Dan Parkes and my screengrab of the unknown vessel by counting 5 windows between the davit arms of the last lifeboat and see if the enclosed promenade and open well deck to see if they would match. To my surprise, they matched well to the Aberdeen's liner Demosthenes.
That's where I wanted to conclude my research, but eventually found the Demosthenes sister ship, the S.S. Themistocles which also matched the one in the newsreel. It's difficult to tell which one was filmed departing but I'll end saying that this unknown vessel departing with the crowd cheering for their loved ones onboard in the newsreel with the Demosthenes.
For the end note, I'll just say that I did find a route for both of these two ships, but I still don't know where was that newsreel filmed.
So, I'll leave it at that until I manage to find the location and also ecluding the history about these two ships as the main focus of this is about that newsreel of theunknown ship departing that was also used in A Night to Remember Titanic leaving port scene.
A link o Parkes research article about the Olympic Class films is also up.
First of, let's start with the British Pathe's newsreel of this vessel from the short documenary, Titanic: The Facts told by Real Survivors and even found its way in A Night to Remember departure scene. This ship was often contributed as Lusitania, but the stern doesn't seem to match the one of hers. This is also a part that Dan Parkes discussed in his research about the Olympic class films from 1908 to 1937, as well as him making a full length movie version of that time period.
On his website, I'll quote this bit in which he only mentioned this unknown vessel (highlighted in red), excluding the right shot of Lusitania.
Some newsreels also include the above two shots, both of which are neither Titanic or Olympic class ships. The shot on the left of crowds waving goodbye to a ship departing is of ship that is yet to be identified. The ship on the right is most likely the SS Lusitania.
Going back to the not-yet-identifed ship departing, there are others who also tried, but ended up finding anything. There was one person in Titanic Animations Discord server who wanted to find the name of the ship, but the discussion didn't continue and the person left. After that, I came along and decided to tackle this mystery by myself going through each shipping line and trying to match the stern as we've never seen the front of the vessel.
The arrangement of every ship how the research has been going up to now, was out order in regards to: American line ships to now Aberdeen Line.
Yesterday, on 20th April, I was looking through the passenger ocean liners list at:
OCEAN LINERS
A selection of ocean-going passenger ships employed in regular routes from the mid-19th century until air travel prevailed in the 1960s.
greekshippingmiracle.org
That's where I wanted to conclude my research, but eventually found the Demosthenes sister ship, the S.S. Themistocles which also matched the one in the newsreel. It's difficult to tell which one was filmed departing but I'll end saying that this unknown vessel departing with the crowd cheering for their loved ones onboard in the newsreel with the Demosthenes.
For the end note, I'll just say that I did find a route for both of these two ships, but I still don't know where was that newsreel filmed.
So, I'll leave it at that until I manage to find the location and also ecluding the history about these two ships as the main focus of this is about that newsreel of theunknown ship departing that was also used in A Night to Remember Titanic leaving port scene.
A link o Parkes research article about the Olympic Class films is also up.
