It's funny, but I don't mind the Murdoch shooting scene as much as some things Cameron did. At least it was a disturbing scene and was based on rumors. Some of the stuff, Margaret Brown being quelled in the lifeboat and how Lightoller acted, as far as I know came out of thin air.
I mean, even thought I clearly see the reasons for the Murdoch shooting himself scene objections, I personally find other things worse.
I didn't mind the shooting scene either. I always knew Cameron's intention was to draw sympathy to the character, he was forced into that unfortunate situation of killing those people. Likewise, with the bribery, i don't think Murdoch was shown with the greatest enthusiasm in accepting that money. I don't even think he did accepted it, Cal just shoved it straight into his pocket.
There was a much worse shooting scene Cameron did, and that was Cal's performance down the grand staircase.
If somebody was a regular North Atlantic traveler, it's not outside the realm of possibility that such a person might be aquainted with some officers other then the Captain. Especially if they had a tendency to stick with the same line.
It may not be the likeliest scenerio, but it's not impossible.
Cal probably knew Murdoch from sight. And it might not have been the other way around all that well - Murdoch knowing Cal, that is - maybe just from sight also- and after all Cal was a rich young millionaire playboy - not exactly an inconspicuous passenger ! Lovejoy makes a remark to Cal - something to the effect that Murdoch "seems to be reasonable" - so maybe Lovejoy and Murdoch knew each other more than Cal and Murdoch. "Who knows what evil lurks in the minds of men ?".....or James Cameron.
Hello to you too, Michael -
This, too, may not be the likeliest scenario, but it's just one more to add....again "It's only a movie !" Nevertheless I would have to rate Ewan Stewart ahead of Billy Zane in the acting department. LOL.
>>So maybe Lovejoy would have had previous dealings with Ship's Officers - maybe even Murdoch on previous sailings - before Nathan Hockley hired him to look after his sometimes wayward son ?<<
It's a possibility. The Pinkertons got around, and it's not unknown for cops to take an interest in shipping, particularly if smuggling is a problem. (Which it was in the real world.) Lovejoy came across as a keen observer, which for a detective is to be expected. Even if he didn't know the officers, I think he would make it his business to find out.
That he was packing a gun tells me he was a lot more then a manservent.
Lovejoy was Cal's glorified babysitter hired to protect this fool from himself. The shooting scene where Cal seizes Lovejoy's gun and starts chasing Jack and Rose down the Grand Stair case still leaves me speechless. Cal, oblivious to everything else, shoots at the fleeing pair wildly begins firing at them! I'm amazed that no one else was hurt or killed! Didn't Cal ever hear of the phrase "innocent bystanders?"
All things considered, Ewan Stewart did a remarkable job as Murdoch. The only positive scene involving Murdoch was his deadly showdown with the iceberg.
Regarding Ewan Stewart, wasn't he interviewed over his role as Murdoch? I read somewhere (I think on this board) that he caught some "heck" over the shooting, too, or that he was asked his perspective over that particular incident.
Ioan (Yo-Ann) Gruffrydd (Griffith) is how the Welsh spell it I think. Or you could just say John Griffith which is his name in English but he'd probably not like that. Sorry I don't mean to come off as a know it all.
No, not at all. I knew there was a 'y,' 'u' and two 'd's in there, but I just couldn't remember how the letters were arranged. I do remember, however, that his last name was a variation on "Griffith," that Welsh 'Io's are pronounced like the English 'Y', and the 'w' is a vowel, believe it or not, sounding much like the English 'u'. I have a strong academic background in linguistics, but my knowledge in Welsh/Celtic is limited. There are similarities and parallels to Latin, which I find very interesting. It's easy once you start learning it.