Alcoholic beverages

Welcome back, Ryan! It's good to have a man of taste and discernment onboard once again. However, it's my view that the best invention since the knife was the fork. Or maybe the spoon. Being from Darwen you might be unfamiliar with these later developments but you really should try them if you come down south. MUCH more effective than the fingers, especially for soup.
 
An implement invented finally for the consumption of soup? What amazing times of technological advancement we live in...
Good t'see thee, Bob! I have missed your good self, you know?

I'll see you around the boards no doubt. - just gonna pop for a cuppa and stick another nail in the coffin for the time being. Chat soon!
 
Hi everyone, I am particularly interested in the dining experience on Titanic,
Most sources claim that there were 850 bottles of liquor and around 1000 bottles of wine on board.
That doesn't seem like a large amount of alcohol for the crossing. I recall that there were about 325 first class passengers who would probably be used to the large variety of wines customary at dinner. In addition to that, there were many second class passengers who would want to access wine because they would have been able to had they been travelling in first class on another ship. My question is was there not the usual Edwardian food and wine pairings in the general dining room? Were people simply not drinking? or was the bottle size larger in 1912?
I would be very grateful for any help
 
On the Titanic menus at the bottom of the menus, you will find Munich Lager Beer served in bottles or a tankard.
I have 2 online Titanic shoppes and in Decemebr I launched WSL pint glasses and shot glasses.
I have been digging everywhere to find out information on Munich Lager Beer.
Who brewed it?
From Germany Right?
Maybe not....
Early in my search, I discovered a Munich Lager Beer Brewery, located in Boston, Mass. owned by Suffolk brewery Inc. (1875)
I quickly dismissed this as the source of the White Star Line's supplier for Munich Lager.
After a few months of examining German Brewers; Pauliner, and others who brew a Munich Lager, I am stymied because there is no German Brewery named Munich Lager Brewery, to my knowledge.
None.
So...... Back to Boston.
The White Star Line had Trans-Atlantic routes from Southampton and Liverpool to Boston.
Is it plausible that those ships brought back Munich Lager Beer from Boston, to stock the Olympic class liners?
Second scenario, perhaps the beer was delivered to NYC by wagon or rail, to stock the ships in New York?
Boston is roughly 200 miles from NYC.
Munich is roughly 800 miles from Southampton.
From a business economics standpoint, it seems that the Boston Suffolk Brewery would be a logical choice for Munich Lager Beer.
The Suffolk Brewery ceased operations in 1918.
They were located near the docks on 8th street in Boston.
I can't find out much else about them, or a possible connection to Titanic.
If anyone happens to have any information that would shed light on this, I would be very appreciative.

Best Regards,
Bill
 

Arun Vajpey

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I discovered a Munich Lager Beer Brewery, located in Boston, Mass. owned by Suffolk brewery Inc. (1875)
If the menu on the Titanic said just "Munich Lager Beer" it might not have meant that it was actually brewed in Munich Lager Beer Brewery in Boston. They might have just been trying to sat "Lager Beer from Munich". In those days they might not have been so picky about bending the truth for better sales.
 
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I stumbled upon the Brewery who supplied both The White Star Line and The Cunard Line.
It is Wrexham Brewery, who was located in Wales.
They supplied Titanic with Wrexham Lager Beer, which only available on draught on board.
 
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Here's an excellent article about the Wrexham brewery which includes this newspaper article from 1890 (original source Welsh Online Newspapers):

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I suspect that "Pilsner" was interchangeable with "Munich beer" as a style, in much the same way as stout, radlers and IPAs are now made all around the world.

The beer on the Titanic was provided by CG Hibbert & Co wholesalers of Southampton (latterly Dover) and I believe they also stocked the ship with Bass Ale, among other delights:

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Sorry, I don't have a credit for the image above - would appreciate I someone could assist with this?
 
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Here's a more specific article regarding beer on the Titanic from the same blog linked to above. Very interesting!
Cool article. It could have been a Munich style beer but they just left out the style part for reasons Arun alluded to. Not sure about 1912 but today brewers have breweries all over the world operating under their license. I was surprised when I went to Cairo and they had a Stella plant there. It was run by the Belgians from what I could gather. At least the management part. I helped their sales a little when I was there.
 
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Arun Vajpey

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That's great research Sam, thanks. Wrexham Lager Beer Company with "foundation on the German System"........that probably explains it being available as "Munich Lager Beer" on board the White Star ships like the Titanic.
 
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