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Logan Geen
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According to Titanic Triumph and Tragedy (pg 259) Carlisle joined the firm of Axel Welin, but according to Wyn Wade Carlisle became a master builder in the Royal Navy. Have a great Christmas everyone!
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Kareen Healey
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Well... I was proud that Lord Pirrie was born in Quebec just like me, the man that draws the Titanic, but I really wondered if I should keep on like that! lol!
More seriously, I've read somewhere that Carlisle had resigned from H&W because he did not agree with Pirrie's stance about the lifeboats, but when I tried to have this fact confirmed with the British Enquiry (testimony of Carlisle) I found out that nowhere it is specified in the latter. Is someone knows what is the truth concerning this ? And where this fact could be confirmed for sure if it represents the truth ? Thanks!
More seriously, I've read somewhere that Carlisle had resigned from H&W because he did not agree with Pirrie's stance about the lifeboats, but when I tried to have this fact confirmed with the British Enquiry (testimony of Carlisle) I found out that nowhere it is specified in the latter. Is someone knows what is the truth concerning this ? And where this fact could be confirmed for sure if it represents the truth ? Thanks!
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Ioannis Georgiou
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You will not find anything about it as it is only a modern made up myth. Also there was to conclusion reached about the lifeboat question when he left H&W.
His retirement was bases on his health condition. (I have recently published a research article about it.)
Kareen Healey
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Thank you very much! By the way, do you know if the book of Jaeger is reliable ? It has in it some half-truth like that. I have the habit to read Historical Reviews where articles are written, with review panels by university's historians when I want to go deeper in a Historical fact, like the Second World War or Russian Revolution, for instance, but to have check it in d-base, there is no such thing for the Titanic, so everybody's feel free to tell whatever he wants, "killing" the truth incidentally! Is there any specialist of the Titanic in university of some country ??
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Lorna Alexander
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Hi ,I'm new on the forum . Have always been interested in the Titanic as my grandfather was Alexander Carlise's secretary and friend . My father was called after him 'Ion Alexander Carlisle " and I have my fathers christening cup given to him by Alexander Carlisle .
I have a writings by my grandfather about Lord Carlisles political speeches although they are quite incoherrant . I believe they both left the shipyard around the same time
There were actually old photos of the Titanic in our old family home ,but they were destroyed when we moved in the sixties ! The Titanic wasn't really famous then !
I have a writings by my grandfather about Lord Carlisles political speeches although they are quite incoherrant . I believe they both left the shipyard around the same time
There were actually old photos of the Titanic in our old family home ,but they were destroyed when we moved in the sixties ! The Titanic wasn't really famous then !
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Harland Duzen
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Welcome to ET Lorna Alexander! Great to have such an connection to shipbuilding history!
Not to be rude, what do you mean by "destroyed"? Do you mean they were purposely destroyed (possibly out of respect or shame of the disaster) or was it by accident?
Not to be rude, what do you mean by "destroyed"? Do you mean they were purposely destroyed (possibly out of respect or shame of the disaster) or was it by accident?
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Lorna Alexander
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Hi Martin , my grandfather wrote everything,and there were lots of papers where he'd written about everything from his job in Harland and Wolf to hair restoration! A lot of it was stored in an old coach house hayloft . These were all mixed with photos ,many of ships with the Titanic amongst them . When we moved in the late sixties it was all cleared out .
Remember the Titanic was just a disaster that had happened ,memorabilia wasn't important or worth anything then .
I remember some of the photos as they were Sepia and quite large and as a child I can remember the furniture in it was very opulent. I wish I had those photos now !
I have been to see the Titanic Centre and my Grandfathers name and wages are in a display cabinet with Alexander Carlisle ! Which was a surprise to see . I think it's his writing too as he had quite a distinct style . Our house was called "Carleol " which is Scottish for Carlisle . So he seemed to have great admiration for him !
He was friends with Lord Pierre and his wife too . They all had gone to Belfast Royal Academy school together .
Looking back though , I have to say it seemed to be a bit of a clique, as all the top jobs seemed to have gone to The Belfast Academy ! I never knew my grandfather as he died long before I was born .
