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Ellen Grace Butland
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Wah, that "student driver" pix is one huge dent!
Michael H. Standart
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From The Shipping Times:
Queen Victoria celebrates first year at seaMore at http://www.shippingtimes.co.uk/item_10178.html
Queen Victoria celebrates first year at sea
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Ellen Grace Butland
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Many thanks, Mike for your postings again. I see Cunard (read Carnivorous) are booming the Vicky up big. She might find herself a clientele separate from that of Mary2, time will tell. Meantime, I have just got my hands on a Berlitz 2008 cruise guide, only to find bloody Carnivorous have swallowed up P&O Cruises and there are No single cabins on Pacific Sun, which is ex Jubilee (and Berlitz' drawing of her show her still with the winged funnel) I plan a trip downtown with my camera tomorrow, hope this old hag does not break the lens 
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Joe Russo
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I think P&O might be adding single cabins. Michael, didn't you post something about this recently?
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Joe Russo
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It would be nice if Cunard would do some last-minute changes to the new Queen Elizabeth and add a small number of single cabins. That might make her more unique.
Michael H. Standart
Member
From Boston.com:
Maine town to welcome cruise ship Queen Victoria
Brief story at http://www.boston.com/news/local/maine/articles/2009/01/24/maine_town_to_welcome_cruise_ship_queen_victoria/?rss_id=Boston.com+--+Latest+news
Maine town to welcome cruise ship Queen Victoria
Brief story at http://www.boston.com/news/local/maine/articles/2009/01/24/maine_town_to_welcome_cruise_ship_queen_victoria/?rss_id=Boston.com+--+Latest+news
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Ellen Grace Butland
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Just a short post. Pacific Sun no longer has her Carnival funnel, the wings have been hacked off and the uptakes poke out at the top. I DO HOPE P&O have at least some single cabins, or at least not with horrendous surcharge.
Michael H. Standart
Member
From Cruise Critic:
Airlifted Cunard Cruise Passenger Recovering from Successful SurgeryMore at http://www.cruisecritic.com/news/news.cfm?ID=3187
Airlifted Cunard Cruise Passenger Recovering from Successful Surgery
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Joe Russo
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Here is more on the story which has interesting video of the airlift and a flyby of the ship.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/cornwall/8012040.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/cornwall/8012040.stm
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Kyle Johnstone
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Very cool video, thanks Joe
Michael H. Standart
Member
From The Times Live, South Africa:
A stately cruise on Cunard's Queen VictoriaMore at http://www.timeslive.co.za/lifestyle/travel/article200763.ece
A stately cruise on Cunard's Queen Victoria
Michael H. Standart
Member
From The Daily Mail:
Appeal launched over £22,000 damages awarded to couple who had 'highly stressful experience' aboard cruise shipMore at http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1232995/Appeal-launched-22-000-damages-awarded-couple-highly-stressful-experience-aboard-cruise-ship.html
Appeal launched over £22,000 damages awarded to couple who had 'highly stressful experience' aboard cruise ship
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Joe Russo
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That is so ridiculous!!! I wish I had their problems.
"So perturbed was Mrs Milner that she is still unable wear any of the 21 evening gowns she purchased for the trip, at a cost of £4,300, because they are an 'unwelcome reminder' of the horror."
oh mon dieu! What would Imelda Marcos do?
"So perturbed was Mrs Milner that she is still unable wear any of the 21 evening gowns she purchased for the trip, at a cost of £4,300, because they are an 'unwelcome reminder' of the horror."
oh mon dieu! What would Imelda Marcos do?
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Jim Kalafus
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Stripping away that quote, one must then ask the initial question "Who fed this story to the media? The couple, or Cunard?" Since the only quote in the article makes the couple look ridiculous, and there is VIRTUALLY no evidence offered from their side one can form suspicions on that point....
Then, one must ask the question that someone obviously did NOT care to address in that article: do the floors in the upper deck Victoria cabins audibly flex in rough weather? Upon what evidence was based the initial award? Did the couple provide video and audio? Let's face it... people who can spend $65,000 at this point in time on a vacation are NOT a beloved class backed up by a welling of affectionate public sentiment. If this settlement was twenty two thousand pounds on a three hundred pound cabin, one could say that prejudice in favor of 'the underdog' might have played a part, but these people were NOT the underdog. You'll note that the article fails to specify
~If audio/visual evidence exists to back up the judgement
~If there have been other complaints
~If evidence of the other complaints was aired in court
~How many other suits pertaining to this have been filed, or how many other suite occupants have accepted travel vouchers to shut up
~I've never been in a upper deck cabin with floors that flex with a "disturbing" noise in bad weather. The article NEVER addresses why the floor groans. Would not a quote from the designer saying "It's supposed to do that" fit nicely into the piece? Or long term Victoria crew members saying "Yes, the floors creak, but within normal limits?" The omission of those points leaves hanging the possibility that the noise ISNT intentional... was any evidence regarding either side of the issue presented in court?
If it is NOT intentional then, yes, I would want a refund, too. There are the usual heavy seas creaks and rattles that you expect. And, there are unacceptable levels of noise. If, thru some design flaw, the floors DO make awful noises in storms and nothing has been done to rectify the problem in... what...three seasons, then the settlement is just. If you bought a $60,000 car, and the transmission roared like that of a Yugo, would you philosophically think "Well, sometimes cars do that?" I wouldn't either. So, lets hope that the facts as presented in court are made public.
There are not enough facts in this article to allow the reader to decide "hysterical and/or scheming couple" or "Oh, that's weird; WTF with the cabin floors."
Regarding the other detail: if I paid $65,000 for a cabin and discovered that the floor groaned in rough seas, and was then moved into another cabin ONLY UNTIL ITS ACTUAL OCCUPANTS JOINED THE SHIP, yeah, I'd be pissed off, too.
Then, one must ask the question that someone obviously did NOT care to address in that article: do the floors in the upper deck Victoria cabins audibly flex in rough weather? Upon what evidence was based the initial award? Did the couple provide video and audio? Let's face it... people who can spend $65,000 at this point in time on a vacation are NOT a beloved class backed up by a welling of affectionate public sentiment. If this settlement was twenty two thousand pounds on a three hundred pound cabin, one could say that prejudice in favor of 'the underdog' might have played a part, but these people were NOT the underdog. You'll note that the article fails to specify
~If audio/visual evidence exists to back up the judgement
~If there have been other complaints
~If evidence of the other complaints was aired in court
~How many other suits pertaining to this have been filed, or how many other suite occupants have accepted travel vouchers to shut up
~I've never been in a upper deck cabin with floors that flex with a "disturbing" noise in bad weather. The article NEVER addresses why the floor groans. Would not a quote from the designer saying "It's supposed to do that" fit nicely into the piece? Or long term Victoria crew members saying "Yes, the floors creak, but within normal limits?" The omission of those points leaves hanging the possibility that the noise ISNT intentional... was any evidence regarding either side of the issue presented in court?
If it is NOT intentional then, yes, I would want a refund, too. There are the usual heavy seas creaks and rattles that you expect. And, there are unacceptable levels of noise. If, thru some design flaw, the floors DO make awful noises in storms and nothing has been done to rectify the problem in... what...three seasons, then the settlement is just. If you bought a $60,000 car, and the transmission roared like that of a Yugo, would you philosophically think "Well, sometimes cars do that?" I wouldn't either. So, lets hope that the facts as presented in court are made public.
There are not enough facts in this article to allow the reader to decide "hysterical and/or scheming couple" or "Oh, that's weird; WTF with the cabin floors."
Regarding the other detail: if I paid $65,000 for a cabin and discovered that the floor groaned in rough seas, and was then moved into another cabin ONLY UNTIL ITS ACTUAL OCCUPANTS JOINED THE SHIP, yeah, I'd be pissed off, too.
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Joe Russo
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The article makes them look like Lovey and Thurston Howell III from "Gilligan's Island." Didn't Mrs. Howell have even more evening gowns than that for the 3-hour tour?
