Astor on ebay

Mike Poirier

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I see on ebay that they are auctioning off the
signature of "Titanic" survivor Nanacy Astor. Now, I've heard tell stories of her heroic actions during the sinking while sittin on my maw-maw's knee, but to get her autograph..... Gee! Wow!
 

Dan Cherry

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Ah, Nancy Astor, Titanic survivor she is not, but she did give the world one of the most hilarious conversations in history, something to this effect:

Astor: I say, Sir Churchill, you are drunk!
Churchill: I may be drunk, madam, but you are ugly, and in the morning, I'll be sober!
 

Phillip Gowan

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Another great Nancy Astorism:

"Mr. Churchill, if you were my husband, I would give you poison."

To which the great man replied: "If I were YOUR husband, madame, I would take it."
 
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Amanda Sloan

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No such person!
John Jacob Astor
and
Madieline Astor

no other Astor's were on board.
 

Steve Arnold

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Wasn't she a member of Parliament? That would account for the clashes with Churchill. Though American born she married British and eventually became the first female MP, unless I am confusing her with a different Lady Astor.
 

Dave Hudson

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Amanda,
Technically, there were three Astors aboard:
John Jacob Astor IV
Madeline Astor
John Jacob Astor VI

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Teri Lynn Milch

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David,

Shoudn't that be John Jacob Astor V? Have we been dippin in the alcohol again? ò[sub]lower [/sub][sup] upper[/sup]
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Dave Gittins

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No, Madeleine's son was JJ VI. Another member of the family had already used V.

Nancy Astor married Waldorf Astor, whose father was William Waldorf, a son of JJ III. William had moved to England and became a Viscount. Hence the Lady Astor. The present Viscount is William Astor.

BTW, Nancy Astor was a living doll in her youth but she's said to have changed from dominating to domineering later.
 

Teri Lynn Milch

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Thanks for the clarification, Dave. I hadn't realized that another family member would take the V.

Did Nancy become domineering after her husband's death?
 
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All,

Lady Astor (nee Nancy Langhorne) WAS the first woman MP, elected in 1919. It was a huge to-do. There was a great deal of press and controversy over it; she even had to have a police escort to take her seat in the House of Commons.

From a Hearst features article I have,"How Lady Astor Won Her Seat in Parliament" (21 December 1919), there's a great story about one of her campaign stops:

"...Lady Astor finally took the rostrum but before long became annoyed by a persistent Labor heckler. 'I am getting fed up with these paid agitators,' she exclaimed,'Come up to the front and let the crowd see what a real Labor man looks like!' When a young man with a velour hat, smart overcoat, silk tie, white scarf and gloves and a silver-mounted walking stick, stepped up, she said: 'Just what I thought! Better dressed than any of the people voting for Lady Astor!' And that settled the young man..."

She went on to say:

"...They say I am one of the idle rich but I bet I've done more real work than these Labor orators! ...These Labor party orators are no more working men than I am a charwoman...I'll guarantee if those wild-eyed men had as much as I have, they'd be living in that palace of mine they're always talking about and not standing here in the snow as a candidate for Parliament!..."

At another rally:

"...'Is not your place in America, Madam?'demanded a young woman in the crowd. 'Do not think for one moment that I am not proud of my Virginia blood,' rang out Lady Astor's voice,'I married over here in England. What is it you want me to do? Stay at home and do nothing but be a Viscountess?'...A man in the audience began to use abusive language toward her. Promptly Lady Astor said:'I want every woman here to make sure this man does NOT vote for me. I do not want the vote of a man who curses a woman when he's sober!'..."

At still another event:

"...Are there no social reforms in America you could give your time to?' asked a man. Quickly and sharply came the reply, 'I consider the likes of you ought to be only too glad to have an American woman who will fight for what is right!'..."

Here's some links for more on Lady Astor:

http://www.netsrq.com/~dbois/astor.html.

http://www.comptons.com/encyclopedia/CAPTIONS/16787496_P.html

Randy
 

Dave Gittins

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Teri, I gather that she was one of those people who always know what it best for everybody else. A biographer writes, "The other side of her genuine philanthropy and concern for people was an unmasterable passion to interfere in their lives." I'll bet you know somebody just like her!