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Message: [QUOTE="Seumas, post: 450876, member: 168076"] Slainte Mhath Jim ;) Regarding Lightoller's testimony, it's also been suggested that he may have been a wee bit "economical with the truth" in taking the credit for ordering those men below to open the gangway doors. There's a fair chance it may have been Wilde or Murdoch who gave the order rather than Lightoller. Indeed, wouldn't you say that it's much more likely that the Chief Officer would be much more likely to be giving such orders in the circumstances to the most senior deck rating rather than the Second Officer ? It does look like Nichols and his gang did leave the boat deck for perhaps half an hour or so before returning to help with the later boats. A few passengers and crew did report a dearth of seamen (particularly on the port side IIRC) with stewards having to assist with the falls and even Captain Smith helping to the lower one boat for lack of men. Ioannis Georgiou (if he's reading this !) is really the man to go to for the whole gangway door conundrum. He's posted quite a lot of common sense about it in the past. [/QUOTE]