B-Deck Millionare Suites

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Leigh Anthony Ross

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just out of couriosity, what cabin did J.P. Morgan set aside on the Titanic before his cancellation?
 
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Jeremy Lee

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Wow, then if both Ismay and Morgan were aboard, then what cabin would Ismay be relocated to?
 
Michael H. Standart

Michael H. Standart

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Probably whichever cabin J.P. Morgan would have wanted him to re-locate to. He wasn't exactly the easist bloke to turn down, and he was the boss!
 
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Jeremy Lee

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Well, I would like to see Ismay being shoved around for a change!
Grin
 
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Daniel Klistorner

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All,

Ismay only got the B52/54/56 suite because on sailing day - April 10, 1912 - there were no paying passenger bookings for it (all have been cancelled). If Morgan was to sail, I assume and it is highly probable that Ismay would have occupied C62/64, which at the time of Titanic's sailing was not booked or occupied by anyone (no the Astors were not in this cabin).

Daniel.
 
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Nicholas A, Filpula

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I heard that J.P, Morgan had book the one with the deck but I could be not right
 
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trev

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Ismay would have had whichever "2nd best" available cabin that he wished, he would still have been the second most senior representative onboard.One things for sure, Morgan would have occupied the suite, and most likely not given a second thought to Ismays accomodation arrangements.
 
Jonathan Granato

Jonathan Granato

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My understanding of Ismay's martinet reputation is that it's been built up since the sinking to enhance the image of him as a bad person in order to vilify him for surviving.
 
Donald J A Smith

Donald J A Smith

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We seem agreed that B-52/4/6 would have been occupied by Morgan; in the unlikely event of his having actually sailed aboard 'Titanic'. I say unlikely, because he so favoured 'Cedric' above any other ship that some wag nicknamed it 'Morgan's Yacht' - and a suite was reserved for him (always, I believe) *until* he 'cancelled'!
 
Michael H. Standart

Michael H. Standart

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>>My understanding of Ismay's martinet reputation is that it's been built up since the sinking to enhance the image of him as a bad person in order to vilify him for surviving.<<

Thanks be to the yellow journalism of the day no doubt. For whatever it may be worth, and that may not be much in this case, Ismay was one of the more human of the bosses who were running about at the time. All else aside, he did make adaqate lifeboat provisioning an order for White Star long befor the regulatory bodies of government got around to it.

His Biography certainly doesn't paint a portrait of a monster and his charitable involvements don't either.
 
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Christopher Repole

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Out of curiosity- which cabin *were the Astors in? It has always been implicitly agreed to be C62 etc but of course there isnt much proof for this. What do we think? (Sorry for asking semi-un-ryerson-related questions.)
 
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Christopher Repole

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i mean questions semi unrelated to MORGAN ( i was just reading the ryerson posts) sorry!
thanks
 
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Lester Mitcham

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Hello Christopher,

I refer you to a post by Daniel Klistorner made on the 6th of October under: Cabin Numbers>>ET Deck Plans:C-Deck and D-Deck Occupant Identification!
Therein Daniel aruges for the Astors being in C-17 and C-21.
 
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