I'm still baffled by the infamous helm order. If we accept that Boxhall heard the bell, and the helm order, and felt the collision all within 10 seconds of each other, and if we accept that Hichen's began turning the wheel when he heard the ice crunching against the ship, then I have to wonder, what on earth was the point in ordering hard a-starboard in the first place? She did not have time to turn and the lookouts believed it was the collision which caused her helm to shift. James Cameron's film tries to make sense of this bizarre order by suggesting the engines were going full astern and this would make her turn in relative time but much slower, but if the order full astern was not given before the collision then it means the helm order was not given 37 seconds before, but much much sooner, and if the helm was shifted by the collision itself then the order 'in my opinion' was not given at all, as it was too late to do anything and the order would simply swing the stern into the iceberg. Anyone else make sense out of the initial helm order, assuming it was given. .