Losing nothing, Sam.You must be really loosing it these days Jim. If you look at my post (#62 above) the boat shown is coming down on a vertical line. The orange colored vertical line I show is a vertical line extending from the edge of A deck straight down to the water. The waterline is the orange colored horizontal line. The ship is listing over to port around 2-2.5°. (The original waterline is shown in blue.) The outlines of the ship are all in white. The purpose of the diagram was to show that a boat on the starboard side would NOT scrape along the side on the way down with the ship listing as much as 2° to port.
I agree. But again you missed the point here. The point of 15 coming down over 13 shows that the two boats were launched within minutes of each other. And as 15 was coming down they had to push that boat off the side at times, suggesting that the list was still shifting further over to port, perhaps 3° or more.
Apples and oranges Jim. You are mixing things up again. That question from Smith you just quotes was about when the order to fill the boats with women and children was given. It had nothing to do with when Wilde order people over to the starboard side.
Your corrected sketch in post No. 62 shows a lifeboat with its gunwhale hard-up against the ship's side. It makes no allowance for tumble-home and ignores the fact that such a situation would result in No.13 filling with water from the overboard discharge.
Cut the waffle. This lad was actually there and left in Boat 15:
"3rd Class Steward John Hart, Examined by Mr. HOLMES.
10261. At the time your boat [No.15] was lowered, was the ship badly down by the head?
10262. Had she a list?
- Not that I noticed. I noticed she was badly down by the head.
10263. You did not notice any list either way?