Brent Holt
Member
Shelley Dziedzic
Member
Boy did I need some good news like this! God bless those Norwegians- she may look ratty and tatty just now, but underneath that flaking paint is ONE classy hull. Am jumping for joy!
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James Doyle
Member
Believe me, this is wonderful news and unbelieveable for the ocean liner buffs but I have one question. Please say they will keep the ship in its original appearance with the same colors, same hull and those two signature funnels. I pray they wont convert it into an unrecognizable box with a bow and a stern.
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Joshua Andersen
Member
God I hope not. The Red, White, and Blue funnels are the soul of the ship I think. They basically say I am the United States standing tall and proud. They will have to refurnish the ship but hopefully will say the general outboard appearance of the ship. Joshua
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David F. Smith
Member
WOO HOO!!! Now that is unbelievable! I am so happy, tears are forming! Such great news after sitting watching Titanic on this solemn evening.
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Colleen Collier
Member
On the eve of such a tragic event, this is the best news I have come upon in 91 years since. What remarkable and completely unexpected news!
Michael H. Standart
Member
Well, who said April 15th has to be a day of unrelenting bad news? (Titanic, tax day!) 
I'll be interested to see what NCL actually does with this ship.
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Erik Wood
Member
Be forewarned that the Big U will not look like she looks now (or better worded she looked in her hay day). Just as the Norway changed from the look of the France. NCL is undertaking a refurbishment that will cost them nearly 200 times what the ship is actually worth, and triple what she will make in her first 3 years of service.
The ship will most likely need to be peeled open to replace her machinary and add new piping and electrical systems, then they need to add everything else. This will be a very expensive venture.
One that NCL is used to with the Norway (ex France). The Indy is pretty much ready to sail. She will need a new paint job, and a new radar. But otherwise she is sail ready.
The ship will most likely need to be peeled open to replace her machinary and add new piping and electrical systems, then they need to add everything else. This will be a very expensive venture.
One that NCL is used to with the Norway (ex France). The Indy is pretty much ready to sail. She will need a new paint job, and a new radar. But otherwise she is sail ready.
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Tom Pappas
Guest
Think about it: a 50-knot cruise liner! Monday: New York, Tuesday: Curacao, Wednesday: Tenerife.
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Colleen Collier
Member
Michael, you forgot Lincoln!
Erik. In your opinion, will they keep the funnels, colors, and general feel for the ship, as before?
I am relieved and elated, but if it will cost them 200 times what the ship is worth, and put them in the hole for 3+ years, what is the driving force behind them doing this? Just a guess, but... Does it have anything to do with where the SSUS was built, or where her registry is out of? Possibly that she will be able to go places other ships are not allowed to port?
Have you heard any buzzing about where she will be sent to for this refit, and when it will begin?
Thank you!
Erik. In your opinion, will they keep the funnels, colors, and general feel for the ship, as before?
I am relieved and elated, but if it will cost them 200 times what the ship is worth, and put them in the hole for 3+ years, what is the driving force behind them doing this? Just a guess, but... Does it have anything to do with where the SSUS was built, or where her registry is out of? Possibly that she will be able to go places other ships are not allowed to port?
Have you heard any buzzing about where she will be sent to for this refit, and when it will begin?
Thank you!
Michael H. Standart
Member
Mmmmmmmmm...yeah, for Lincoln, April 15 1865 was a really bad day! Concur with Erik on the magnitude of the project to get the United States up to snuff. This is going to be an expensive project.
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Erik Wood
Member
The funnels will probably stay intact but will change to NCL colors as will the rest of the ship. The fact that the inside has been gutted is a good thing, she has to meet the new SOLAS standards effective in 2010 and meet the new requirements that have been developed since her removal from service.
Plus NCL has to make her a marketable ship, and they can only do that is by offering what other newer ships offer in a older hull and with some of the luster of her past. A easy thing to do, the Norway continues to be profitable but also is expensive to run with her old Steam Plant.
When NCL orginally bought the France (now Norway) she didn't change all that much, over the next three decades she has changed quite a bit, but still retains her basic look.
In this case what NCL bought was a hull and superstructure. All her machinery will be replaced. Recall that sometime ago I reported that the United States Congress allowed NCL to sail ships out of Hawaii without the restrictions usually forced upon foreign flags at that time I further commented that that would signal the end of American flagged passenger ships.
What NCL has done by buying the Indy and the Big U is buy a piece of American Maritime Heritage and promised to retore them and return them to service. They made a brillant (IMO) marketing decision aimed at older and younger travelers who want a glimpse of ocean travel in it's hay day. In the end the Big U will probably save them money over a new hull. In this case they are only adding the goodies or fitting her out, not starting from scratch.
My numbers may be a little big, it will depend soley on the new designs that NCL wants to put in place. From what I have heard they plan on running her on runs within the U.S. . The Indy may end up returning to Hawaii but one never knows.
There is quite a bit of amazement in the union halls on forums for Captains and sailors that the two ships have been saved and promised to return to service.
Plus NCL has to make her a marketable ship, and they can only do that is by offering what other newer ships offer in a older hull and with some of the luster of her past. A easy thing to do, the Norway continues to be profitable but also is expensive to run with her old Steam Plant.
When NCL orginally bought the France (now Norway) she didn't change all that much, over the next three decades she has changed quite a bit, but still retains her basic look.
In this case what NCL bought was a hull and superstructure. All her machinery will be replaced. Recall that sometime ago I reported that the United States Congress allowed NCL to sail ships out of Hawaii without the restrictions usually forced upon foreign flags at that time I further commented that that would signal the end of American flagged passenger ships.
What NCL has done by buying the Indy and the Big U is buy a piece of American Maritime Heritage and promised to retore them and return them to service. They made a brillant (IMO) marketing decision aimed at older and younger travelers who want a glimpse of ocean travel in it's hay day. In the end the Big U will probably save them money over a new hull. In this case they are only adding the goodies or fitting her out, not starting from scratch.
My numbers may be a little big, it will depend soley on the new designs that NCL wants to put in place. From what I have heard they plan on running her on runs within the U.S. . The Indy may end up returning to Hawaii but one never knows.
There is quite a bit of amazement in the union halls on forums for Captains and sailors that the two ships have been saved and promised to return to service.
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Erik Wood
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Parks Stephenson
Member
I very much appreciate the SS United States, especially since my uncle was her Second Engineer during the 1950s. However, what is equally joyous -- but not discussed -- about the article posted here is the news that the SS Independence was also saved from the breakers and will continue in service. For those who don't know, the Indy is one of the last, if not the last, counter-stern cruise ships still in operation. Talk about nostalgia!
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Tracy Smith
Member
Wow, wonderful news! I can't wait to see the finished refits for both ships.
