Britannic Plans

Dave Hudson

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Hello Everyone,
Does anyone know where I can find a set of Britannic deck plans? I have a half set from the book, The Last Titan, but they are only of the Boat Deck through C Deck, and there is very little detail with hard to read labeling. I also tried the Debris Field website but only found the same plans. Is anyone from the Belfast area who can mail me a set? I would be happy to reimburse you for the postage. If you can, email me. If not, can someone direct me to a website perhaps?
Thanks to all who reply,
David
 

Joshua Gulch

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David,
The plans in "The Last Titan" and on the Debris Field are available in 17x22 from the Titanic Historical Society for $10.00 and show all the decks. Unfortounatelly, these plans cut off the very aft edges of the Boat and Promenade Decks to make them fit better. But they're still nice plans.

The Official Britannic Research Centre has a set of detailed builder's plans, although they only go down to C-Deck. Although, D-Deck is shown in "Sisters," on pages 406-7.

Hope this helps.

Josh.
 

Joshua Gulch

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I correct myself.
The only portion of C-Deck on the builder's plans is the forecastle. The entire C-Deck is shown along with D-Deck on the page mentioned in "Sisters".

Josh.
 

Remco Hillen

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Hello Josh,

At the THS site, I see the Deck Plans rated at $15.00?
As I'm thinking of ordering a set, I'd like to be sure.
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David,

The only plans you will found on the Internet on Britannic are plans as they are in 'Last Titan'.
Luckily, there's 1 different one around!
Josh points you to the Builders Plans, these are quite detailed.

Regards,
Remco
 

Dave Hudson

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Thanks you guys, that's a lot of help. About the THS plans, I read in the Commutator that they also sell copies of the plans for the proposed "Titanic" of the early 30's. Is that really the Oceanic that never was? Are those plans really from H&W?
David.
 

Joshua Gulch

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Remco,
The Britannic plans are $15.00. Most of the others are $10.00, though. I was going by memory. I would highly suggest ordering the plans. I've had mine since '93, and they've served me well. THS has excellent service. Rev. Fleming's "Last Voyage" just arrived today from them.

David,
The plans you mention are kinda "iffy." They *might* be early plans for Oceanic, but even THS doesn't know for certain. The plans show a four funneled ship with a cruiser stern (as opposed to Titanic's schooner stern). Of course, Oceanic was to be built with three funnels. At $40.00, they're too pricy for my taste.

Josh.
 

Remco Hillen

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Hello Josh,

Just ordered them, thanks for clearing that up.
THS has indeed an excellent service, I also ordered "Last Voyage" from them some months ago; got it rather fast considering the fact that I live in Europe.

You will enjoy 'Last Voyage', it's fascinating to read the story from someone who was onboard.
He did made some errors though, for example :"The ship dived perpendicularly into the depths".
All the onboard shots are also interesting.

Regards,
Remco
 

Joshua Gulch

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Remco,
I flipped through it a little bit yesterday and skimmed through the notes Simon Mills added. It's intesting that Fleming couldn't list the identity of the rescue ships for security reasons. I also loved all the pictures, which aren't in any other book.

Josh.
 

Joshua Gulch

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Becky,
In Britannic, the third class general room remained in the same place as Olympic and Titanic, however, the former smoke room was filled in with the third class hospital. The smoke room was then moved up onto the poop deck in its own special deckhouse beneath the new shade deck.

I imagine this would have made for a nicer atmosphere, with its large windows facing out over the sea.

Josh.
 

Dave Hudson

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Becky,
The Library was on C Deck by the 2nd Class Smoking Room.

All,
The "Ismay screen" (the enclosed third of the 1st Class Promenade) on the Titanic had a continuous line of windows except for one break for the expansion joint. Britannic had two breaks. I know that one was for the joint, but what was the other one for? It wasn't there when Britannic was launched. Also, does anyone know when the commercial maiden voyage was planned? Was it planned?

David
 
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Hi all.

Yesterday I was watching a doc. called 'The Doomed Sisters of the Titanic' and there was a man called Simon Mills. The caption that appeared to show his name, said that he was the owner of the Britannic wreck, is this true? And how is it so?

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He secured the rights to the wreck in 1996 after a friend told him it was for sale, but Britannic had previously been owned by Mark Bamford who bought it off the British government.
 
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Also, does anyone know when the commercial maiden voyage was planned? Was it planned?

It was hoped when launched that September/October 1914 would be the time of the maiden voyage, seven months outfitting like Olympic; but in July 1914, I think, it was announced 'spring 1915.'
 
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Becky,
The Library was on C Deck by the 2nd Class Smoking Room.

David, the library and smoke room were on different decks, the smoke room was above the library.

The gymnasium for second class was just aft of the after second class entrance on C-deck, jutting out into the enclosed after well deck, which was enclosed for third class promenade space.
 

Dave Hudson

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You're right Mark!

I was thinking of the gym. Oh well.

What about the Britannic's promenade that I asked?

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The "Ismay screen" (the enclosed third of the 1st Class Promenade) on the Titanic had a continuous line of windows except for one break for the expansion joint. Britannic had two breaks. I know that one was for the joint, but what was the other one for? It wasn't there when Britannic was launched.

At a guess, I'd say the extra break was due to an extra gantry davit support; they were damn heavy and the deck underwent strengthening.

Remco Hillen's the person to ask, he has an excellent knowledge of Britannic's layout and general anatomy.

Best regards

Mark.
 

Remco Hillen

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The 'break' was indeed caused by a gantry davit support, good guess Mark.
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Extra gantry davit supports can be very nicely seen at the sets aft on the boatdeck.

About my Britannic knowledge, I'm learning more everyday...
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Regards,
Remco