Jessica Mingoia
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Does anyone know of any C deck cabins that were unoccupied but had connecting doors to each other? Are there any sites online where I could view pictures of the B and C deck rooms?
Jess
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C deck cabins
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Michael H. Standart
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Try clicking on B-Deck and C-Deck. Looks to me like most of the cabins in the 1st Class accomadation had connecting doors to each other on both decks.
The deckplans are available right on ET's Index Page right at the bottom.
The deckplans are available right on ET's Index Page right at the bottom.
Christa Erin Pereira
Member
Why did the cabins have connecting doors? It seems a bit dodgy to me that your two neighbours would have access to your room. Would they have been locked?
Christa
Christa
Brian R Peterson
Guest
Hi Christina!
Convenience was the reason these cabins were connected; if a family had booked two or more adjoining cabins for their children or perhaps their servants, they could move about between them without having to exit one cabin, walk down the hall and re-enter another.
I'm fairly certain that the doors could be locked for security purposes and would only be unlocked if the cabins were booked in conjunction. Now if the passenger's cabin key could open and lock these doors or if the stewards had a master key to lock and unlock all the doors in all the cabins is unknown.
Best Regards,
Brian
Convenience was the reason these cabins were connected; if a family had booked two or more adjoining cabins for their children or perhaps their servants, they could move about between them without having to exit one cabin, walk down the hall and re-enter another.
I'm fairly certain that the doors could be locked for security purposes and would only be unlocked if the cabins were booked in conjunction. Now if the passenger's cabin key could open and lock these doors or if the stewards had a master key to lock and unlock all the doors in all the cabins is unknown.
Best Regards,
Brian
Lester Mitcham
Member
Hi Christa,
To what Brian has said, the same also applied with most of the private bathrooms. Most could be let to one of two rooms. That is direct access from both rooms to the bathroom, with some being accessed from a private passageway and some dircet from the staterooms.
I also understand the doors between the rooms were locked unless both rooms were booked. A family group such as the Fortunes, had 3 rooms [C-23/25/27. 23 & 27 could directly access the bathroom] all interconnecting plus [I believe] a private bathroom.
Hope that helps.
To what Brian has said, the same also applied with most of the private bathrooms. Most could be let to one of two rooms. That is direct access from both rooms to the bathroom, with some being accessed from a private passageway and some dircet from the staterooms.
I also understand the doors between the rooms were locked unless both rooms were booked. A family group such as the Fortunes, had 3 rooms [C-23/25/27. 23 & 27 could directly access the bathroom] all interconnecting plus [I believe] a private bathroom.
Hope that helps.
Christa Erin Pereira
Member
Thanks Brian and Lester.
That makes heaps more sense. If the bathroom was being accessed from a private passage could it be leased to the two different parties that were able to access it or would that be a no way kinda thing?
What was the price difference, do you know, between a room with and a room without a private bathroom?
That makes heaps more sense. If the bathroom was being accessed from a private passage could it be leased to the two different parties that were able to access it or would that be a no way kinda thing?
What was the price difference, do you know, between a room with and a room without a private bathroom?
Lester Mitcham
Member
Hi Christa,
The rooms were advertized to be let with or without private bath and toilet, which cost 35 pounds for the ones in the forward and after sections of C-deck. [rooms such as C-86 came with private bath and toilet]. 45 pounds for the bathrooms of the C-deck rooms with wardrobe rooms and for the B-deck bathrooms.
Hope that helps.
The rooms were advertized to be let with or without private bath and toilet, which cost 35 pounds for the ones in the forward and after sections of C-deck. [rooms such as C-86 came with private bath and toilet]. 45 pounds for the bathrooms of the C-deck rooms with wardrobe rooms and for the B-deck bathrooms.
Hope that helps.
Christa Erin Pereira
Member
Thanks Lester,
How do you know which ones are which (e.g. C-86)? The numbers don't show on this site.
Christa
How do you know which ones are which (e.g. C-86)? The numbers don't show on this site.
Christa
Brian R Peterson
Guest
Hi Christa!
For plans listing cabin numbers I recommend either the plans found in the 1911 Shipbuilder or Titanic: Triumph & Tragedy by Eaton & Hass, both are exceptional in detail and feature furniture layouts and the like.
Best Regards,
Brian
For plans listing cabin numbers I recommend either the plans found in the 1911 Shipbuilder or Titanic: Triumph & Tragedy by Eaton & Hass, both are exceptional in detail and feature furniture layouts and the like.
Best Regards,
Brian
Lester Mitcham
Member
Brian,
A problem with the plans in the Shipbuilder is that they are not Titanic. For the outside forward rooms on C-dcek the numbers are the same, thereafter they differ.
Also the Bathroom plans as shown on this web-site are wrong. The 10 forward bathrooms were a combined bath with toilet with athwartship passageways on the after-side of the bathrooms. The after bathrooms are as shown in the Shipbuilder and E&H with either an outside bathroom or an outside toilet, with the latter entered from the former and not as with the Parlour Suites and Suites of Rooms from a passageway running between two bedrooms and with wardrobes rooms inboard of the passageway.
Christa,
If you use the plans on this site C-86 is the room just forward to the 3rd bathroom counting forward from 2nd Class on the port-side.
But as noted above that bathroom as with those aft of it and the matching starboard-side ones are not single bathrooms, but two bathrooms and two toilets [with no wardrobe rooms] serving the rooms forward and aft of the bathroom/toilet complex. C-86 had an outside bathroom and an inside toilet.
Hope that helps.
A problem with the plans in the Shipbuilder is that they are not Titanic. For the outside forward rooms on C-dcek the numbers are the same, thereafter they differ.
Also the Bathroom plans as shown on this web-site are wrong. The 10 forward bathrooms were a combined bath with toilet with athwartship passageways on the after-side of the bathrooms. The after bathrooms are as shown in the Shipbuilder and E&H with either an outside bathroom or an outside toilet, with the latter entered from the former and not as with the Parlour Suites and Suites of Rooms from a passageway running between two bedrooms and with wardrobes rooms inboard of the passageway.
Christa,
If you use the plans on this site C-86 is the room just forward to the 3rd bathroom counting forward from 2nd Class on the port-side.
But as noted above that bathroom as with those aft of it and the matching starboard-side ones are not single bathrooms, but two bathrooms and two toilets [with no wardrobe rooms] serving the rooms forward and aft of the bathroom/toilet complex. C-86 had an outside bathroom and an inside toilet.
Hope that helps.
Christa Erin Pereira
Member
Thanks guys,
It's still a bit fidgety in my mind but I'll give it some more thought. I'm not used to some of the terms and have to focus a bit more.
Christa
It's still a bit fidgety in my mind but I'll give it some more thought. I'm not used to some of the terms and have to focus a bit more.
Christa
Michael H. Standart
Member
Which terms aren't you familier with? If it's the nautical terms, you might try clicking on TRMA's Nautical Glossery.
Lester Mitcham
Member
Hi Christa,
The one that might throw you is: "athwartship passageway". That is a passageway that runs for some distance across the ship. Side to side as opposed to the fore-aft passageways. So generally you have athwartship passageways leading off of the main fore-aft passageways and either connecting them or perhaps leading to the side of the ship as stateroom access.
Hope that helps. If you like you can e-mail me privately.
The one that might throw you is: "athwartship passageway". That is a passageway that runs for some distance across the ship. Side to side as opposed to the fore-aft passageways. So generally you have athwartship passageways leading off of the main fore-aft passageways and either connecting them or perhaps leading to the side of the ship as stateroom access.
Hope that helps. If you like you can e-mail me privately.
Christa Erin Pereira
Member
Thanks guys, both of your messages are very helpful. That "athwartship" had me stumped, thanks Lester.
These two had me particularly stuck:
>C-86 had an outside bathroom and an inside toilet.<
Outside and inside of what?
Also, when you say 'just forward' of something are we talking as if you were standing at the stern of the ship looking towards the bow?
Christa.
These two had me particularly stuck:
>C-86 had an outside bathroom and an inside toilet.<
Outside and inside of what?
Also, when you say 'just forward' of something are we talking as if you were standing at the stern of the ship looking towards the bow?
Christa.
Lester Mitcham
Member
Hi Christa,
If you look at the deck plans for C-deck on this web-site, the bathrooms and the toilets for the rooms aft of the grand staircase are against the side of the ship. Thus they had portholes. Any room with a porthole is an outside room. Those inboard say against the boiler casings are inside rooms. - As also with the bathrooms for the rooms in the forward section of C-deck.
In the case of C-86 the bathroom had a porthole, but the toilet which led off of the bathroom was against the fore-aft passageway. - C-88 was the other way around. It had a toilet with a porthole, and the bathroom against the inside wall. - I hope that is making sense? - What books with deck plans do you have or have access to?
Where I said just forward of that meant "immediately forward" of. In the case of C-deck [looking at the plans on this web-site] you have 3rd Class at the stern [two rooms with tables and chairs, a set of stairs and the Well Deck with two cranes on it]; then 2nd Class with its Library [staircases both forward and aft of the library]; and then 1st Class with most of the bathrooms and toilets clearly marked. - So C-86 is on the port-side just/immediately forward of the 3rd bathroom/toilet complex counting forward from 2nd Class.
Hope that helps,
Lester
If you look at the deck plans for C-deck on this web-site, the bathrooms and the toilets for the rooms aft of the grand staircase are against the side of the ship. Thus they had portholes. Any room with a porthole is an outside room. Those inboard say against the boiler casings are inside rooms. - As also with the bathrooms for the rooms in the forward section of C-deck.
In the case of C-86 the bathroom had a porthole, but the toilet which led off of the bathroom was against the fore-aft passageway. - C-88 was the other way around. It had a toilet with a porthole, and the bathroom against the inside wall. - I hope that is making sense? - What books with deck plans do you have or have access to?
Where I said just forward of that meant "immediately forward" of. In the case of C-deck [looking at the plans on this web-site] you have 3rd Class at the stern [two rooms with tables and chairs, a set of stairs and the Well Deck with two cranes on it]; then 2nd Class with its Library [staircases both forward and aft of the library]; and then 1st Class with most of the bathrooms and toilets clearly marked. - So C-86 is on the port-side just/immediately forward of the 3rd bathroom/toilet complex counting forward from 2nd Class.
Hope that helps,
Lester
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