Calvert's character made this movie spectacular


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No, really, this Billy Zane is one heck of an actor.

Even with Kate Winslet and Leo, Billy's character is central in this movie. (IMHO)

WITHOUT HIM, I THINK THIS MOVIE WOULD HAVE LACKED CHARACTER.

Why?

Calvert exudes the atmosphere of the Edwardian era. The way he moves, talks, thinks - it's perfection. His facial expressions toward the end of the movie, especially, highlight the emotional chaos of the situation...

He adds some very very important quality of authenticity to Titanic!

Anyone agree?
 
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I just think Billy's the hottest thing since caviar and toast. He could read the Prague phone directory and still look sexy as all get out. Check out his performance in 1993's "Orlando".
 
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Jonathan!! Orlando is one of my favorites
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The soundtrack is to die for, too.
I assume you're a male. Well, experience has shown me men don't like that movie.... That's strange...
 
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PS - Generally speaking for the male standpoint....Cal Hockley is our hero...Jack whatsisname is just a wimp. :)
 

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>Cal needed a trophy wife.

Should have ended all of that contrived cat-and-mouse game playing conflict and acted on his painfully obvious (to this viewer) attraction for Jack.

Rose's mother is a good second choice. Lovejoy playing a game of "The Servant Turns The Table " is too sick to ponder, on oh so many levels, so we'll let that tangent die unexplored. Lucile Duff-Gordon seems to have all of the components for a good match for Cal, as does the delightful Miss Aubart. Madame DeVilliers seems like a potential Rose II and should be avoided. Jumping the tracks a bit, Jack seems more a like a Milton Long target than Cal, but perhaps someone who is 30 passing himself off as a teenager and someone who is bald but passing himself off as thick haired could find some common grounds ("Would be utterly believable if I was blind") on which to build a bridge. 'Zette Baxter would be a fine-if-frumpy lovematch, and for a man who craves danger and excitement, who better to pair off with than the tempestuous Ella Mae White? A "sportsman" with Mrs. Shelley and Mrs. Parrish would probably end with Cal putting the gun in his mouth in 1913 rather than 1929, as their incessant complaining sapped his will to live. So, I say either Jack or Lucile Duff-Gordon, or perhaps Jack AND Lucile Duff-Gordon, are the best Titanic matches for Cal.
 
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>>>Should have ended all of that contrived cat-and-mouse game playing conflict and acted on his painfully obvious (to this viewer) attraction for Jack.<<<

But that's why Cal had to get rid of Jack. He couldn't face it. Isn't that (unfortunately) always the way?

I think Mrs. Madeleine Force Astor would have made a good wife for Cal in the end. Then, they could both taste gun barrels together in 1929 - if not sooner. 'Course, Madeleine might not have hung 'round long enough to find out anyway. She'd want someone younger and Italian with big hands.........for boxing.
 

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The Widow Astor? No...that would be pairing Cal off with another High Maintainance teenager after his providential freeing from the first one. And, as you said, Cal (who seemed to show many of the personality flaws of those obsessed with the fact that nature has blessed them with small hands) would only end up getting dumped at a critical part of his life in favor of the childrens' boxing coach...who, at least, was a step up from being dumped for Jack. But then, being thrown over for Don Knotts as Ralph Furley would be a step up from being dumped for Jack, in the scheme of things.

With Lucile, at least he'd have fun.

>But that's why Cal had to get rid of Jack. He couldn't face it. Isn't that (unfortunately) always the way?

Sooner or later, whatever woman he married would be cleaning the history files of his computer and learn the "horrid truth."
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He'd deny it, of course, and then claim that it was a site he stumbled into by accident while trying to rent a "gayly colored" Ford Escort sedan for his recent trip to the airport. Then, with nothing left to lose after the divorce, he'd end up relocating to either the northeast or southwest and phoning Jack to "talk over old times."
 
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After reminiscing over "old times" on the phone, (as we all know, Jack really survived the sinking because good characters simply don't die in movies) they may even meet up to go "fishin'" together somewhere in the wild West, only to return home with no catch.... of fish that is.

Who knows? Maybe on one Cal's trips to the airport they had actually met before, by chance, in the restroom as Cal happened to be tapping the brilliantly polished toe of his spectator oxford. The fallout from this would become public and in the end Cal would admit he was guilty, thus resulting in the demand of his resignation from the board of Super-CAL-ifragilistic Enterprises and losing Jack at the same time (Jack was just mooching off of him anyway). It was this total loss of livelihood and love that was the real reason for Cal's biting lead.
 

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Too farfetched. Could never happen that way in real life. What next? Suggesting that Cal hire a former Miss Virginia as his secretary, even though she cannot type, take dictation or answer an office telephone, perhaps? That he be seen in public, inebriated, with an actress of dubious merit named Fanne Foxx? That he be one of only three survivors when a metro DC area gay pornographic theater burns down? That he be drawn, colaterally, into a scandal when the mistress of one of his best friends goes public with the fact that the friend hired her as a "therapist" to help "cure him of his Marquis de Sade Complex," and then is found beaten to death shortly after she announces that, oh, by the way, she has video of said? That Cal see his hopes of a better station in life ruined when he foolishly tells the press "If you think I'm cheating on my wife, follow me and prove it!" and they do and they do?

Tomfoolery. Bad plot twists all. Could never happen.
 

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Bringing this back full circle- Dude, that is Titanic's target audience. Like, y'know, totally attuned to fine dialogue like "Jack- this is where we met" and clever plot twists like "Jack Chained to The Pipe" and "Jack and Rose Distract the Lookouts Just Long Enough To Send The Ship Into the Berg."

Depressing? Perhaps. But, they DO buy tickets.
 

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Posted by sharon rutman:

"Calvert who?"

You know, the guy who said that nothing, not even God, could sink the Titanic and also, that Picasso would never amount to anything.
 
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