Cameron's Titanic Please read


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Kyrila.....I cannot believe...Who....... ...ME?

Partake in anything like that?.......No way.

Besides, he lives out of the country and I never leave this country for ANYONE!

Regardless of events of last September, this is and always will be the safest haven in the world.

Regards, Warmly...to my lil Sis,
Bill
 
All right, so Kate Winslet did a really good job of acting in this movie. And yes, it was acting, for some of her comments made afterwards showed that filming was a severly unpleasant experience (though of course she won't go anywhere near those comments now. I suppose a good talking to from her agent made her realise she can never state the truth in the media, not if she wanted to be open to a lawsuit).

As for my opinions of this movie...I believe I stated them rather healthily at the Red Lion in March! ;)
 
Hey Josh....

C'mon man, that's classified, I could tell ya but then I'd have to kill you and believe me, if I had to take the food money that I feed my cat with to come out there, I won't be coming out there to talk................ ......So there!
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Regards,
Bill
 
Bill, leave Josh alone. He could grow up to be my future son-in-law for all we know.

Josh, you should know better than to tease Big Bill. ;-) If you're good, I'll send you a photo of my daughter. Ask Jason. I don't know if he was ever able to put his eyes back in his head after he saw it.

Kyrila
 
Kyrila,
After what I saw this morning, you could be right.

Josh,
Kyrila saved you, her and I are so tight, we make a buffalo head nickel fart....thank her...NOW!

Regards,
Bill
 

Don Tweed

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I feel I have come across "Our Coterie" !!!
Kyrila can be Helen, William can be Hugh Woolner,
and Joshua can be Bjornstrom Steffanson!!!
I'll be Col. Gracie.
Scotch and lemon for all!!
Except you Bjornstrom, hot lemonade for you!!

Just having fun!!
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-Don
 
Hey Don....

I never heard of hot lemonade..Ummmm...Na hhhhh you wouldn't be thinking....Oh no...Don, I never would have guessed.....Hey Kyrila...you think I treat Josh harshly? <smile>
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Regards Don,
Bill
 
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J. Tagliere

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This is complete aside to this conversation, but I found it interesting nonetheless:
June 2, 2002
"Once Unthinkable, Now Unsinkable"
The Taliban banned movies, but that didn't stop Afghanistan's love
affair with 'Titanic'

By Robyn Dixon
Kabul, Afghanistan -- It towered, a fantastical construction of
orange-scented cake and butter cream icing created by a team of four
men, including an engineer: a 132-pound dessert in the shape of a
ship, dedicated to Afghanistan's favorite film, "Titanic."
Although the Taliban had banned films and shut down cinemas when the
movie was released in 1997, most people here in the capital watched
pirated copies at home on their illegal VCRs.
Here, the movie is still the greatest romantic adventure of all, so
the unhappy ending notwithstanding, the Titanic makes the perfect
wedding cake. Baker Ghulam Rasul, 63, nearly stumbled under the weight
of the cake as he loaded it into a van on its way to be cut up, served
and eaten--four days' work demolished in one hectic hour.
The madness for things "Titanic" in Kabul dwarfs even the fuss made
over the film in the West.
Kabul sign-writers are practiced exponents of the "Titanic" theme,
with pictures of the ship decorating cake shops, taxis, buses, trucks,
market carts and cafes all over the city.
In the windows of the city's many poster and video shops hang posters
of the movie's stars, Kate Winslet and Leonardo DiCaprio, locked in a
loving embrace, gazing deeply into each other's eyes.
DiCaprio-style hairstyles featuring long bangs and known as
Titanics--which were banned in the Taliban era because they interfered
with praying--are still popular with Kabul's youth. The bazaars are
full of Titanic shampoo, Titanic perfumes, Titanic vests, belts,
shoes, pants and chewing gum. Souvenir shops sell Titanic mosaics with
the ship laid out in lapis lazuli.
Cabdriver Abdul Hadi Charkhi, 30, adorned his taxi with a picture of
the ship to attract customers. "I did it out of love for the film," he
said. "There are many, many taxis with the Titanic."
Young women buy cheap postcards of the "Titanic" stars, printed in
Pakistan. "Everyone likes the name. Everyone says Titanic, Titanic,
Titanic," said Haji Faiz Mohammed, one of Kabul's largest cinema
owners. "Those who have watched it say Titanic, Titanic, Titanic.
Those who have not watched it say Titanic, Titanic, Titanic. It has a
huge name."
The film is popular in video stores, although nearly everyone, it
seems, has seen it, often several times. Yet "Titanic" has never been
shown on the big screen in Kabul.
Even Afghans have difficulty explaining why, in a landlocked country,
the film so captured the popular imagination. Siddiq Barmak, the
director of state-owned Afghan Film, puts it best: "'Titanic' is a
great human interest story. People here compare their fate to the
story of the Titanic. There's a ship which sails out and the
passengers have a common grief which embraces all their lives. And the
people on the ship want to save themselves from their misfortune. I
think there is a lot in common with the fate of Afghanistan and the
Titanic. We're looking for a way to rescue ourselves," he said.
A year ago, under the Taliban, the "Titanic" cult was even more crazed
than it is today, locals say--a source of frustration for the
Taliban's Ministry for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice.
Images of the ship were allowed, but pictures of the stars were banned
because human portraits were forbidden. But the Taliban's efforts to
rein in the "Titanic" cult only illustrated how difficult it was to
enforce the regime's rigid social controls. Many of those who did not
have video players saw the film at the homes of friends who did.
Kabul sign-writer Afizallah, 45, said the Taliban mullahs preached
that people shouldn't watch the film, which features some scenes that
are highly controversial in Afghanistan because of nudity. "You'd tell
people not to do it, and they would do it anyway," said Afizallah, who
has seen the movie many times.
Although the population secretly flouted the law against videos, it
was risky to openly defy the Virtue and Vice police.
Twenty-two Afghan barbers were jailed in January last year for styling
young men with Titanic haircuts.
Rasul, the baker, had a Titanic cake model in pride of place in his
window until the Taliban banned the cake last summer. Members of the
religious police ordered him to remove the model and stop baking the
cake. Since the Taliban fell here in November, Rasul has resurrected
his proudest creation. "The Titanic is the most popular cake," Rasul
said. "I get a lot of orders. When the film came to Afghanistan,
everyone was interested in Titanic cakes. It's the best film."
The biggest Titanic cakes he has made weighed 220 pounds. He had two
such orders last year. A 220-pound cake, 2 yards long and 18 inches
high, will feed 2,500 hungry wedding guests when sliced by Rasul's
experienced cake cutters.
Rasul's son, Ghulam Reza, 38, works as an engineer in the Ministry of
Planning but put his skills to work in structuring the cake design.
"No one else is able to make this cake. I'm the only one who can do
it," Rasul boasted, although other Kabul bakers claim that they could
do it if they tried.
Kabul had 40 cinemas before the Soviet invasion in 1979, and 17 under
the Soviet-backed Communist leader Najibullah, who ruled from 1986 to
1992. No new film has been imported to Afghanistan for a decade, and
the cinemas show old, familiar ones.

"'Titanic' would have a big audience because it's new in the cinema,"
said Mohammed, the cinema owner, estimating that half of Kabul's
population has yet to see the film. They've heard of it and are filled
with anticipation. If Afghan Film gives me permission to import the
film, I'll do it," he said, adding that the film would also have to be
approved by the Afghanistan Censorship Commission.
Barmak, the head of Afghan Film, said the real problem is money: The
film would cost an importer $150,000. But he said Afghan Film would
approve its import, and he is optimistic that the film will be on the
big screen in Kabul soon.
 
Kyrila,
Thank you for saving my heinie. Although, poor Jason. He probably wanders around aimlessly chanting things in Latin now. (Which Jason is this, by the way?)

Bill,
You and Kyrila can give nickles gas? *raises eyebrow* You have a way of complimenting a lady, man. I'll give ya that.

Don,
LOL! I had a good chuckle over that! I can sing the Happy Birthday song in Swedish, too! Hot lemonade, I've never had it though.

Josh.
 
Today was the first time I have seen Cameron's movie since the night it opened and three hours later left with a bad taste in my mouth that lingered for many months afterwards. I wondered if the second time around, I would find reason to change any of my earlier impressions of the movie.

Unfortunately, my impressions remain negative in that this is the worst dramatization ever about the Titanic. The special effects scenes and the sets remain spectacular, but the dialogue sounds even worse the second time around. The one difference in seeing this movie on the small screen on DVD for the first time though, is that it more and more seems less like a Titanic movie than it did on the big screen where the size of everything could overwhelm you. On a TV screen alas, even in letterboxed format, one is forced to focus more on the drama and the story and it is just simply abysmal. Except for Gloria Stuart as Old Rose, and Victor Garber as Andrews, there are very few acting performances to commend either.

The only time the movie suddenly sprung to life for me was the moment of collision and the aftermath. This was when the potential for a truly great Titanic movie could at last be seen and I could only wonder what might have been had the focus been more on the real story and less on the shallow soap opera.
 
Eric,
Few acting performences besides old rose and Victor Garber? I thought Kate Winslets performence was outstanding as Rose. Played her perfectly, just as Cameron wanted her to. Dicaprio was just so so but I thought everyone else played there part perfectly. And about you whinning about the love story well thats what you are supposed to focus on. Its a love story placed in a historical background. I would have liked a documentery better but he wouldn't have made any money. This was a love story entertainment thats what Cameron has stated countless times. You have to accept the movie for what it is, not for what its not, and if you don't like it thats fine, you just needed to know what Cameron was meaning to do. What else could he have done to be come the rich man he is today without the love story??? I think knowing millions of teenage girls seeing the movie countless times means more to Camerons developing a story than anything else does.

P.S. You all can't get mad about this post like the last Cameron one. Didn't call anyone stupid or anything, just stated my opionion.
 
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