Captain Smith's childhood


natalie gleeson

Has anyone got any info on EJ's life before his career?? I've been surfing for days and havent found anything interesting. Thanks Guys.
Hi Natalie

There is Gary Cooper's book, 'The man who sank the Titanic', now out of print. You could probably get a copy from on-line second-hand book sellers.
Hi Ernie, I've already tried amazon but a second hand copy costs $130+, It appears its a really sought after book!!
Thanks anyway.
Hi Natalie

I am surprised it is as expensive as that, must be the rarity factor. Abe books have got a copy at about half the price you quote.

Do you live in the UK? You might be able to borrow a copy from the library.
Hi Ernie,
I live in Ireland. I'm sure I could prob order it from the library but these things take so long. I was a little shocked at the price on amazon maybe its just a seller trying their luck. Do you know why nobody uses the chatrooms in here?
Hi Natalie

Hope, I'm not letting the cat out of the bag by telling you Gary is working on a new version of his book. Well worth waiting for.

There is another book you can get second hand quite a bit cheaper, 'Master of the Titanic' by Pat Lacey - a distant relative of Capt. Smith. It's a combination of fact and fiction but I quite enjoyed reading it.

Sorry, I cannot comment about chatrooms, I think most folk prefer to post their thoughts on this website- a more permanent record.
>>Do you know why nobody uses the chatrooms in here?<<

ET's membership is literally worldwide so that makes setting up times to meet something of problem. I just got off work a couple of hours ago. As I write this, it's 1:16am in the USA bit 6:16am in the UK. Some of our members are literally in time zones 12 hours away.
I have always wounded this about Captain Smith.
Did Captain Smith during his childhood ever own and ride horses?
I doubt it - he was brought up in the poor industrial area of the Potteries. He might have done in later life but I think it unlikely.
Captain Smith was born in 1850,How would have Smith get around with out a horse? There were no cars back then!
No, but there were feet. Nearly everybody lived within walking distance of their schools, workplaces, local shops etc. England is small and densely populated, with compact communities - not like Oz where you might need to ride for hours to reach your nearest neighbours. When Smith was a young man most towns had public transport systems like horse buses and tramways. And for the occasional longer journeys there were the railways.
People also walked a lot farther than we do - or at least a lot further than I do - every day without thinking it a long journey. Pictures of all those clerks walking over London, Victoria and Tower bridges to their jobs in the City in the 1880's - swarms of black bowlered men.
Don't go walking across Victoria Bridge, Marilyn. You're liable to get hit by a train! :)
Hanley where Smith was born had a good system of horse drawn trams, but otherwise it was shank's pony - his legs, the Potteries have long been a poor area and horses were a rarity. My father, who was born in Nelson Place just down from Well Street where Smith was born, has told me that when he was a boy (in the 1940's)the only horses they saw were those pulling trams, carts or barges. The Smith's ran a small shop, but the indications are that it was no great shakes, perhaps just a converted parlour, I doubt they had the space or money for a horse.
Right. If you lived in town it was literally cheaper to keep a servant than a horse! Each of my Victorian great grandfathers kept the only horse in their respective streets - one to pull a cab and the other to pull a cart. Horses for personal transport or leisure were beyond the means of the ordinary working family. By the end of the 19th century bicycles were becoming affordable, but even a 2nd hand bike would cost several weeks' wages for most people.