Carpathia's Interiors
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greg robertson
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greg robertson
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Mike G. Anderson
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Matt,
The thing about Carpathia was that she was built not for luxury, but economy. Equipped with large refrigerated storage compartments for food, as well as second and third class areas, she had no first class! I imagine the fact that the ship was a dual-purpose friegter/liner might have driven away the 1st Class passengers, so Cunard simply nixed the idea of a premier class. Ironically, Carpathia was one of Cunard's biggest ships, a mere 1000 tons off the size of Saxonia! It's rather amusing such a large ship had no first class!
Getting back on subject, the interiors were nothing extremely special, owing to its two-class distinction. However, she was a well equipped ship for her time. 3rd class had a bar, sitting room for the ladies, smoking room, and a 325 person saloon. (This seems small considering it could hold 1500 3rd class passengers) 2nd class could only hold 200 passengers, so extra facilities were meager. However, it is said that they were tastefully appointed.
Hope that helped!
The thing about Carpathia was that she was built not for luxury, but economy. Equipped with large refrigerated storage compartments for food, as well as second and third class areas, she had no first class! I imagine the fact that the ship was a dual-purpose friegter/liner might have driven away the 1st Class passengers, so Cunard simply nixed the idea of a premier class. Ironically, Carpathia was one of Cunard's biggest ships, a mere 1000 tons off the size of Saxonia! It's rather amusing such a large ship had no first class!
Getting back on subject, the interiors were nothing extremely special, owing to its two-class distinction. However, she was a well equipped ship for her time. 3rd class had a bar, sitting room for the ladies, smoking room, and a 325 person saloon. (This seems small considering it could hold 1500 3rd class passengers) 2nd class could only hold 200 passengers, so extra facilities were meager. However, it is said that they were tastefully appointed.
Hope that helped!
Dave Hudson
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"...she had no first class!"
Actually she did. When completed in the spring of 1903, Carpathia was intended for Hungarian emigrant service between Fiume and New York. At this time, she only held 204 2nd class and 1,500 3rd class.
By 1905, however, it was determined that Carpathia would be better suited for the Mediterranean tourist service. At that time, the Mediterranean was viewed much like we think of the Caribbean today-a warm, touristy locale that primarily catered to retired American vacationers. Because of this, many smaller vessels were put on routes from the US east coast to Italy as well as round trip cruises within the Mediterranean. Tourists either took 2nd or 3rd class depending on how big their vacation budget was. 3rd was still limited to southern European immigrants.
When this change took place, her accommodation was altered to 100 1st class, 200 2nd class and 2,250 3rd class passengers.
David
Actually she did. When completed in the spring of 1903, Carpathia was intended for Hungarian emigrant service between Fiume and New York. At this time, she only held 204 2nd class and 1,500 3rd class.
By 1905, however, it was determined that Carpathia would be better suited for the Mediterranean tourist service. At that time, the Mediterranean was viewed much like we think of the Caribbean today-a warm, touristy locale that primarily catered to retired American vacationers. Because of this, many smaller vessels were put on routes from the US east coast to Italy as well as round trip cruises within the Mediterranean. Tourists either took 2nd or 3rd class depending on how big their vacation budget was. 3rd was still limited to southern European immigrants.
When this change took place, her accommodation was altered to 100 1st class, 200 2nd class and 2,250 3rd class passengers.
David
greg robertson
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There are photos of Carpathia's dining saloons in Titanic: Triumph and Tragedy by Eaton and Haas.
Mike G. Anderson
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David,
Thanks a lot for the correction! Sorry about posting the wrong information. Can I just ask a few questions? I would really appriciate that!
1.With the inclusion of a first class only an afterthought, what did they do for public rooms. (Saloons and lounges come to mind) Were first and second able to be integrated?
2. Where was first class? Promonade deck or in converted/added deckhouses? Was it once 2nd class space?
3."...it was determined that Carpathia would be better suited for the Mediterranean tourist service." Not to sound harsh, but I don't understand how Carpathia would be better suited for anything other than the Fiume-New York route. Carpathia seems perfect as a lucrative venture...she was rather large and rather efficient and allowed food to be shipped to overpopulated eastern Europe. With a constant stream of emmigrants, I would imagine using the Carpathia on an underexploited route would be a profitable venture. Did Cunard put another liner in its place?
Sorry about the error! Thanks in advance.
Thanks a lot for the correction! Sorry about posting the wrong information. Can I just ask a few questions? I would really appriciate that!
1.With the inclusion of a first class only an afterthought, what did they do for public rooms. (Saloons and lounges come to mind) Were first and second able to be integrated?
2. Where was first class? Promonade deck or in converted/added deckhouses? Was it once 2nd class space?
3."...it was determined that Carpathia would be better suited for the Mediterranean tourist service." Not to sound harsh, but I don't understand how Carpathia would be better suited for anything other than the Fiume-New York route. Carpathia seems perfect as a lucrative venture...she was rather large and rather efficient and allowed food to be shipped to overpopulated eastern Europe. With a constant stream of emmigrants, I would imagine using the Carpathia on an underexploited route would be a profitable venture. Did Cunard put another liner in its place?
Sorry about the error! Thanks in advance.
quincy williams
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wondering if anyone has seen any other interior photos specifically 1st class smoking room, kitchen.... like to see photos of these rooms my grandfather mentioned after being rescued
Mike Poirier
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Hello Mr. Williams
If I recall correctly, Titanic Triumph and Tragedy by Jack Eaton and Charlie Haas has some nice interior shots of the Carpathia. Also, I remember John and Vera Gillespie's excellent- The Titanic Man also had some interior shots.
Mike
If I recall correctly, Titanic Triumph and Tragedy by Jack Eaton and Charlie Haas has some nice interior shots of the Carpathia. Also, I remember John and Vera Gillespie's excellent- The Titanic Man also had some interior shots.
Mike
quincy williams
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Michael
Thank you. I do have the for first book you mentioned (packed away) but have never heard of the other one. Thanks but no need to call me Mr. in the future.
Thank you. I do have the for first book you mentioned (packed away) but have never heard of the other one. Thanks but no need to call me Mr. in the future.
Luke Wojnowski
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Hi, I have been looking for interior photos of the Carpathia for years with no success. Could anyone tell me if there are any in existence?
Thanks!
Luke
Thanks!
Luke
Jim Kalafus
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There are a few in Eaton and Haas' Titanic: Triumph and Tragedy.
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Luke Wojnowski
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Would anyone mind scanning a couple of the photos so I can see the quality of them?
thanks alot,
Luke
thanks alot,
Luke
Hello Luke,
Due to copyright issues, photos such as those ones are not permitted to be posted here, unless permission is obtained from the copyright holder first. Otherwise, it could land in a court of law.
Perhaps someone can e-mail them to you though. I don't own the book currently, otherwise I would. The last resort is to purchase the book yourself.
Due to copyright issues, photos such as those ones are not permitted to be posted here, unless permission is obtained from the copyright holder first. Otherwise, it could land in a court of law.
Perhaps someone can e-mail them to you though. I don't own the book currently, otherwise I would. The last resort is to purchase the book yourself.