Jeremy Lee
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Ooh, I see.....
Maybe Ken can clear this up.
Maybe Ken can clear this up.
Charlie Chaplin on Olympic
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Mike Herbold
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One of my favorite websites to visit is the Ellis Island records site. Doing a search under Charles Chaplin reveals many names, but keeping into account Charlie Chaplin's birthday as April 16, 1889, here are two clear matches.
In 1912, in the company of other actors and actresses, Chaplin, age 23, sailed on the Oceanic out of Southampton, arriving in New York on October 9th. The group was listed as part of the Fred Karno Theatrical Company.
In 1921, at the age of 32, he sailed on Berengeria out of Southampton, arriving in New York on October 17th. Chaplin listed his address as 2244 Temple Hill Dr., Los Angeles (today this part of L.A. is called Hollywood Hills). He was reported to be 5'8" tall with a dark complexion, dark hair, and brown eyes.
I couldn't find a clear match with him on the Olympic.
In 1912, in the company of other actors and actresses, Chaplin, age 23, sailed on the Oceanic out of Southampton, arriving in New York on October 9th. The group was listed as part of the Fred Karno Theatrical Company.
In 1921, at the age of 32, he sailed on Berengeria out of Southampton, arriving in New York on October 17th. Chaplin listed his address as 2244 Temple Hill Dr., Los Angeles (today this part of L.A. is called Hollywood Hills). He was reported to be 5'8" tall with a dark complexion, dark hair, and brown eyes.
I couldn't find a clear match with him on the Olympic.
Mark Baber
RIP
The Olympic trip won't appear in the Ellis Island database, Mike, because it was eastbound, in (as Phil said earlier) 1921. Late last Friday or Saturday night I had started to transcribe The New York Times' report of Chaplin's departure from New York, but my computer had a seizure of some sort soon after I started. Rather than re-boot, I went to sleep. Maybe if it's behaving better tonight, I'll give it another try.
Mark Baber
RIP
The New York Times, 4 September 1921
9 LINERS DEPART; CHAPLIN GOING HOME
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Film Star Shies at Camera, Then Submits on Promise That "It Won't Hurt Him"
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ALL CABINS WELL FILLED
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Many Travelers Make Late Start for Holiday Abroad---Ansorge to Inspect Harbors
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Nine liners sailed yesterday for Europe with well-filled cabins. Their lists contained the names of many well-known Americans going abroad for pleasure or business. The procession down the harbor, which drew a large crowd to the [a typesetting error occurs here; several words are repeated and a line is evidently omitted] White Star liner Olympic, which left just after 8 o'clock in the morning.
The passenger who attracted the most attention was Charlie Chaplin. He said that he was going to spend a month in England visiting the scenes of his boyhood in Brixton, a suburb of London. Chaplin said that he wanted to ride in the old Brixton buses to London over Westminster Bridge, past the Houses of Parliament to Piccadilly Circus, as he used to years ago.
When Chaplin stepped out on the A deck of the Olympic in front of a battery of moving picture machines he gave an affected start and said to an official of the company: "Gracious, what are these?" When told that they were moving picture machines and would not harm him, the film star appeared relieved and said: "Oh, thanks, so much; I am not afraid."
"Do you intend to marry again?" he was asked.
"No, never," he replied. "I am through with that business."
Douglas Fairbanks and Mary Pickford went to the liner to see Chaplin away, but kept out of sight the greater part of the time, as they did not wish to get in the limelight.
[The balance of this article has not been transcribed. Except for two paragraphs about a no-show first-class passenger on HAL's Rotterdam named "Mr. Houston", which may or may not have been an assumed name used by Chaplin to book a cabin on the Dutch ship, the rest of the article has no relevance here.]
9 LINERS DEPART; CHAPLIN GOING HOME
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Film Star Shies at Camera, Then Submits on Promise That "It Won't Hurt Him"
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ALL CABINS WELL FILLED
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Many Travelers Make Late Start for Holiday Abroad---Ansorge to Inspect Harbors
---
Nine liners sailed yesterday for Europe with well-filled cabins. Their lists contained the names of many well-known Americans going abroad for pleasure or business. The procession down the harbor, which drew a large crowd to the [a typesetting error occurs here; several words are repeated and a line is evidently omitted] White Star liner Olympic, which left just after 8 o'clock in the morning.
The passenger who attracted the most attention was Charlie Chaplin. He said that he was going to spend a month in England visiting the scenes of his boyhood in Brixton, a suburb of London. Chaplin said that he wanted to ride in the old Brixton buses to London over Westminster Bridge, past the Houses of Parliament to Piccadilly Circus, as he used to years ago.
When Chaplin stepped out on the A deck of the Olympic in front of a battery of moving picture machines he gave an affected start and said to an official of the company: "Gracious, what are these?" When told that they were moving picture machines and would not harm him, the film star appeared relieved and said: "Oh, thanks, so much; I am not afraid."
"Do you intend to marry again?" he was asked.
"No, never," he replied. "I am through with that business."
Douglas Fairbanks and Mary Pickford went to the liner to see Chaplin away, but kept out of sight the greater part of the time, as they did not wish to get in the limelight.
[The balance of this article has not been transcribed. Except for two paragraphs about a no-show first-class passenger on HAL's Rotterdam named "Mr. Houston", which may or may not have been an assumed name used by Chaplin to book a cabin on the Dutch ship, the rest of the article has no relevance here.]
Chaplin recalled his 1912 trip as being on the Olympic but in fact it was the Oceanic as the Olympic was being refitted at the time.
Jeremy Lee
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Where was it stated that the 1912 trip he took was on the Olympic?
If he said it, could he mistake 1921 for 1912?
If he said it, could he mistake 1921 for 1912?
James Hill
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I have also seen an old photograph of Mr Chaplin
with a group of vaudeville actors and actresses.In it their is a lifering that says "Cairona" I cant remember if its the right spelling but does anyone know anything about this ship?
with a group of vaudeville actors and actresses.In it their is a lifering that says "Cairona" I cant remember if its the right spelling but does anyone know anything about this ship?
Alex McLean
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James,
I think the ship could be the Cunard liner Caronia from 1905.
My best,
Alex
I think the ship could be the Cunard liner Caronia from 1905.
My best,
Alex
James Hill
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I`ve just had a look at the picture again and it says "Cairnrona".
Scott R. Andrews
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Regarding the Cairnrona, use this link and scroll down to the entry:
Regards,
Scott Andrews
Regards,
Scott Andrews
James Hill
Member
Apparently he tried to hide from the fans and autograph hunters when aboard the Olympic.But did appear at a seamen`s charity show aboard.
Kyrila Scully
Member
I attended a showing of "Charlie - The Life and Art of Charles Chaplin," a new documentary at the Palm Beach Film Festival. This documentary included film of him aboard the Olympic. I was waiting for the appearance of one of my favorite actors and this footage aboard Olympic took me by surprise, but I was delighted!
Kyrila
Kyrila
Mauro Zungri
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In a the new edition in DVD of films "The Kid" in the extras appears Chaplin attack of olympic and a very good taking of the boat in the sea. Somebody but had the opportunity to see it?
Kyrila Scully
Member
No doubt - Chaplin and family did sail on the Olympic at least a couple of times. I have a photo of Oona and the children on the Olympic which was (probably wrongly) attributed to Chaplin.
Kyrila
Kyrila
Jason D. Tiller
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The previous thread that was discussing this, has been merged with this one.
See the posts above for more info, Mauro.
See the posts above for more info, Mauro.
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