Claim of new debris field


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Kyrila Scully

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Parks would know, as he was with Michael Harris during the expedition. Michael is talking with CNN even now as I type this - I've just got off the phone with his secretary who is a friend of mine. I'll be calling him myself later, if he's available to take my call.

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Well, in the first few lines I could see that it was absolute tosh, but when it got to that bit saying that the ship rode onto the iceberg in the style of Morgan Robertson's 'Futility', I just thought - "Wow! How come no survivors mentioned that?!"
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This cracks me up:

"Harris, whose grandfather led the first wave of expeditions in the early 1980s, made the two-and-a-half mile dive with his 13-year-old son through freezing waters in a three-man submersible."

Early 80s? So, Harris is Ballards grandson? Geez!
 
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The Harris family is interesting. The "grandfather" mentioned in the previous message is Mike Harris, who was associated with Jack Grimm in the 1980 expedition (a full five years before Ballard, who had nothing to do with Grimm's expedition). Mike Harris's son, also a Mike Harris with a different first name, is the owner of the Titanic Experience in Orlando, FL. His son is the 13-year-old who made the dive with him, as mentioned above. The Harris family has nothing to do with Ballard! Robert H. Gibbons
 
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This isn't exactly hot news I'm afraid. I saw a mention of this on the Titanic-Titanic forum almost two weeks ago.

"Wow! How come no survivors mentioned that?!"

Because a grounding/allision event such as what probably happened doesn't always work that way. The QE2 had a similar event off of Martha's Vinyard back in the early '90's when she ran right over a poorly charted rock which did a number on several tanks in her double bottom. The passengers didn't even notice it when it happened. (Some were more concerned about when the casino was going to open.) Small wonder since the ship never even broke stride. Titanic didn't either, and most of the passengers slept right through it.
 

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Posted on a Yahoo Group from a reliable source who was on the expedition with Michael Harris.

From John Creamer -
New clues to Titanic disaster
From the Reuters correspondents in London

August 24, 2005

EXPLORERS have found a previously unknown site scattered with artefacts
from the Titanic that could shed new light on the final moments of the
world's most famous ocean liner.

"We found a new debris field about 900 metres south of the stern, which
supports my long-standing belief that the Titanic began to break apart
and sink further south than where she currently sits," expedition
leader G. Michael Harris said today... edit




For your consideration,
Kyrila

Sorry Kyrila, I've had to edit out all but a paragraph as you've posted a copyright news article as per the link Dave Gittins provided above. Could you please post a link instead? Thanks, Fiona.
 
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Hello, new here. I saw the 13 year old and his dad on a tv interview last week. The child set a world record with the dive. Am interested in what anyone has to say about the "protect the wreck" movement. Is this Ballard, or just emotional outcry? Saw it on THS website. Thank you.
 

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Hi, Sarah, welcome to ET. We've had a lot of debate concerning the "protect the wreck" movement (which I'm not sure is a real movement in the literal sense, as there's no organization to promote such a notion.) You'll find the case for and against in various threads, if you'll take the time to read through the archives. There is an article on the THS website about preserving pre-salvage artifacts, however I found nothing about any movement to "protect the wreck." But never mind, it's not important. I hope you will read both sides and form your own opinion on that. You might read through the threads posted at this link:

https://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/discus/messages/5932/5932.html?1125025373

Recently, one of our members (who has actually been on a Titanic expedition this summer) posted a very eloquent statement on salvage. I hope you'll give it some consideration.

Kind regards,
Kyrila Scully
 
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Thank you Kyrila, I will do that. I have mixed emotions myself, but do not want to be a "bumper sticker environmentalist" in other words, all emotion, no information!
 
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Actually, they are selling buttons and magnets with the seal "protect the wreck" and the proceeds go to preservation. On THS, it is in the merchandise they are selling. If you put protect the wreck in the search box, these products appear.
 
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Re post this thread 26 August 2005 4:21AM
No Movement to protect the wreck????? Better put engines full astern and check with NOAA the Department of State The British and French Governments and others re the Titanic Memorial Act. No movement indeed !!!! Not Important????
 

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All this doesn't answer important questions.

Is there really a newly discovered debris field 900 metres south of the stern section? I've seen a claim that it was found by Nargeolet years ago.

Is there a clear space between the new debris field and the stern? That would take a lot of explaining!

How did Harris get "hundreds of hours of film footage"? Mir normally only stays at the wreck for 5-6 hours.

This story has been flashed around the world by Reuters, but how true is it?
 

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Hi, Fiona,

Sorry I didn't see the edit and request for the link to the news story. I've already deleted the newsletter. I'll see if I can find it and post it later.

Kyrila
 

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Well, as it turns out, the article (sent to me from a private Yahoo Group) was not linked. I will see if I can get that link from the person who posted it.

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That's all right Kyrila. That story (through Reuters) has been doing the rounds and seems to be similar to the links already posted in this thread.
 
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