Craig Stringer's Titanic People CD-Rom

Kyrila Scully

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It's not only a matter of reporters making mistakes, but editors spicing up the stories reporters write to sell newspapers. Depending on the editor and the angle they want to sell, a story can become sentimental or salacious. It was called "yellow journalism" in 1912, today we call it "tabloid journalism."

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Christina Rindt

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Craig, I'm another one of those 'hope I didn't put the proverbial foot in mouth syndrome'. I should have said the CD is remarkable and eye friendly. I take info. kind of seriously - just following up on it and trust the rest of the CD is correct. Hearing you're a journalist makes me a little thoughtful
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Kyrila, hope you're not an editor! (Haven't got room for another foot)! Or are you speaking from experience being a journalist yourself?
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As folks say, LOL! (hope that means lots of laughs) Being an ordinary British person I don't understand.....doh!

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Kyrila Scully

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Christina, it's a long story, and if you want to email me I'll be happy to tell you about it. You can send me a private message through my profile.

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Thanks, Craig, for your help. It's possible that the reporter overlooked something - like Eliza being the mother and not the widow. Anyway, if you ever find out which newspaper and where, please let me know. The Cork Constitution was where "death notice"appeared on April 25, 1912. It simply refers to William as "fourth son of the late Richard and Mrs. Gillespie, Abbeyleix, aged 31"

All the best.

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Christina, you didn't put your foot in your mouth, and you are right to expect information to be correct. The CD contains the information I had collected and researched over sixteen or so years. As the writer I did my best to present the information I had. I know that the disc is not the last word on the subject, and there are many others who have done as much and more than me on the passengers and crew. Now, nearly three years on, I know that there is other information that could be added, and other biographies improved, but as I said, it was my best effort at the time. I'm not a reporter, and I'm sorry if I gave that impression. I was a teacher, until recently, when the British Education system finally got too much for me. I am glad that you have found the CD useful. I proved something to myself when I finished it.
Best regards
Craig
 
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Christina Rindt

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Craig
Well, I've taken the foot out of my mouth to read this and put it straight back in again
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Somewhere back I mentioned that I sometimes give a kneejerk reaction to things but since reading such a lot of information and comments I would have thought I'd stopped that silly attitude of mine!
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Really though, Craig, I still think it's one of the best CD's on information there is. The comments given by quite a number of folks stand testament to that and can only help others hungry for information. Thank you for your hard work on research. Will there be any more on the way?
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Hi Christina,
Thanks for your kind words. I don't think there will be any more Titanic biographies on the way from me. I have been working on the Carpathia passengers. They received such praise from the Titanic's survivors, and yet for the most part are nameless. I've come across some fascinating stories investigating them. I have also been working a project similar to my CD but about the people who sailed on the last voyage on the Empress of Ireland. Alas, there isn't the market out there for the Empress as there is the Titanic, so I doubt it will ever see the light of day.
Again, many thanks.
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Christina Rindt

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Hello Craig,
<<alas>>

As has been said many times before, there will always be the Titanic... but I would like to add tho' that may be, if it wasn't for chroniclers and writers none of us would learn anything, especially about such devastating events such as the Empress and the heroic efforts of passengers and crews that get involved in real tragedy. Their sufferings and aftermaths would never be appreciated without the written word. Someone has to give these events a voice in whatever way is acceptable and understood. This century is not called a learning curve for nothing!
So, please keep going. There are people still out there hungry for knowledge of these important events, I have no doubt. I speak from experience.
Much gratitude,
Christina
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Hi Craig,

I would be very interested in seeing your research on the Empress. It may not be as well known as the Titanic is, but I believe it would still sell. Your research on Carpathia's passengers sounds very exciting. As you said, not much is known about them.

One of these days, I plan to purchase your wonderful CD.

Best regards,

Jason
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Hi Jason,

Thank you. I agree, I think the Empress story would sell, but I have to find someone interested in publishing it first. And, any work on the Empress would have to be broader than a series of biographies. People know the Titanic story, in one form or another, which makes a CD of biographies more accessible. But although there are several excellent books on the Empress the story of the sinking is less well known.

I must admit I rather like the Carpathia passengers, although I think part of that has to do with how difficult they are to find. I do enjoy the challenge of hunting them down.

I hope you enjoy the CD when you get it.

Best regards
Craig
 
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Craig,

I, for one, am very much looking forward to seeing your work on the Carpathia passengers. Have you any idea of timescales for this and the Empress biographies?

Cheers,

Boz
 
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Hi Iain,

Oh dear, what have I started! True, I am working on the Empress and Carpathia, but I hadn't considered either to be ready enough to take them further just yet. Mind you, I have learned from the Titanic CD, and am writing up the biographies as I go along. For one thing, doing it this way I can spot gaps that need following up. I also have a couple of other ships I am investigating, so you could say I have more than enough to be going on with.
Also, after finishing the Titanic CD I was exhausted, and couldn't settle to any serious research. It has taken a while to pick up where I left off with the Empress.
Right now, I am enjoying the research and writing, but there is no timescale to them. Watch this space is really all I can say.
Regards
Craig
 

Jason D. Tiller

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Hi Craig,

You're very welcome.

Being able to have the challenge of looking for information on the passenger's lives is what it's all about, plus it's exciting when you unearth new info.

I have no doubt that I will enjoy your CD very much, when I do purchase it and I look forward to seeing more from you.

Best regards,

Jason
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