Crew Picture

[Mark Baber]

Moderator's hat on:

Folks, please refocus this discussion on the subject of the thread.

Moderator's hat off.

 

[Christophe Puttemans]

Let's collect the names we already have:

 

[Paul Burrell]

Let's collect the names we already have:
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The sole unidentified chap is Master At Arms Bailey, I think.

 

[C W Dohany]

The man labeled "Viggot" is QM Alfred Olliver. The "unknown" man is Fireman John Thompson.

 

[Ryan Burns]

The sole unidentified chap is Master At Arms Bailey, I think.

Hmmmm, maybe so.

 

[Ryan Burns]

The man labeled "Viggot" is QM Alfred Olliver. The "unknown" man is Fireman John Thompson.

It could go either way. You add a mustache onto Viggot's 1921 photo and it's really, really close.

Then again, Olliver is close too! My only drawback with it being Olliver is that Olliver's complexion and hair color seems a bit lighter than whomever is in the picture.

 

[Ryan Burns]

The "unknown" man is Fireman John Thompson.

Could very well be. They definitely look similar. My only real hesitation comes from the fact that he'd be the only member of the engine crew in the photo, whereas everyone else in the photo is deck crew.

 

[Michael Hinz]

Let's collect the names we already have:
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The man you marked as Ernest Archer is definitely Samuel Hemming.

 

[Gaston Sam]

Actually, he is Ernest Archer. The size and shape of his moustache, his eyebrows shape, and the way he is standing with his hands on his back are strong evidences. Besides, Hemming is much shorter, standing at 5' 2¼".

 

[Michael Hinz]

The man you marked as Ernest Archer is definitely Samuel Hemming.
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So the man in the middle here is Archer too and not Hemming?

 

[Paul Burrell]

Yes, that is Archer is in the middle.

 

[Michael Hinz]

Thank you. My mistake!

 

[Michael Hinz]

Actually, I think we need to switch Haines and Weller. The lighting conditions are not very good, so I turned down the brightness. It can now be clearly seen that the man standing on the right is Albert Haines. Please note his chin, his facial expression and his broad shoulders.

Even if I am not absolutely sure that the other man is Weller, there are some similarities (chin, ears, cheeks).

I also agree that the sad looking man is fireman John Thompson.

 

[Michael Hinz]

It could go either way. You add a mustache onto Viggot's 1921 photo and it's really, really close.

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Then again, Olliver is close too! My only drawback with it being Olliver is that Olliver's complexion and hair color seems a bit lighter than whomever is in the picture.

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I think the man is Alfred Olliver. The resemblance between Oliver and Viggot forces us to look very closely and in this case we can see that Viggot's nose does not match that of the man on the Adriatic. His beard style is also a bit different.

Viggot after his rescue in New York (right)

Alfred Olliver

His hair color looks different in each photo because of the lighting, I suppose.