Dead woman floating in the lounge

I think it's just some anonymous woman that Cameron used to illustrate that people were dying.

Edith Evans may have been last sighted on the boat deck, but no one actually saw her go into the water. So, she could have gone inside.
 
Really, it could have been a third class girl who was so oblivious to the danger she stole first-class night gown from a cabin and tried it on. Then sat in the lounge, pretending to be first class before the water came in.

Really, it was just a symbolic woman, but out of the four first class ladies, I'll go with Edith Evans. Here's a illustration of Miss Evans, I believe? Looks like a good fit.

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According to Walter Lord, Mrs Astor cleaned up well "looked like a band box in attractive light dress". Mrs Lucian Smith also seemed to have done the same, as there seemed to be "all the time in the world" to get dressed and made up.
 
Actually according to Lord, 1st class was more put together than the rest of the passengers. I think he said "2nd class was less elegantly attired" or something to that extent.
 
I personally think people are missing a big point that James Camerons film was a work of FICTION based on the real disaster - Rose, Jack and a whole host of fictional Characters were intermingled with real life people.

And therefore I believe In James Cameron's fictional version of Titanic, more than 4 first class women were supposed to have perished - I mean Rose was believed to have 'perished' before she turns up as an 101 year old. I think James Cameron used a huge helping of poetic licence across the whole thing - and probably made a creative decision to have more women die supposedly in the disaster.

So I always took the floating woman to be a first class Passenger who never existed in real. Probably someone who refused to get out of bed until it was too late and caught in only her nightdress didn't make it far from her room before downing - something that could have been very plausible in an alternative universe!

There where a myriad of fictional 3rd class passengers like Cora and her family, Helga Dahl and her family, Tommy, Fabrizio - so why shouldn't there be extra fictional first class passengers we never saw the backstory for who perished
Also James Camerons version there seems to be a lot more women perishing in the sinking scenes (of all classes) then there really were (I think there were 'only' about 110-120 women who actually died on the titanic) but the 1997 film makes it look more like 300-400 - all in the name of looking more dramatic.

Also note the ending dream/death scene where old rose goes 'back to titanic' - there are a number of 'first class' looking women gathered on the staircase - and I do believe JC was suggesting those people were the ones who died on the titanic - as you don't have Ruth, Cal, Molly or any 'survivers' etc returning for that scene.

I mean I didn't know only 4 first class women died in real life until researching some years after watching the film, and if asked after watching the film how many first class women I thought had died - I'd have said 20 or 30. So I think JC and other film makers often buy into that ignorance of the general viewer!

So the floating women = first class but fictional


NB, Trudy, Ruth's maid is a good example of this too, JC kills her off in the film (we see her sliding down the deck during the sinking) and as a first class servant, she'd probably have been listed as a first class passenger - upping the first class female death toll +1 in the film....... so it's easy to see how in JC's mind their would have been more!
 
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You make a great point, but the thing is, nobody knows exactly how many people of each class actually died on the Titanic. The numbers that we get today are estimations.

When the Titanic sank in 1912, the newspapers made it sound like many many women also died on the Titanic, thus the men who survived were labeled as cowards by the public, because in the minds of the public those men got into lifeboats while there still ''many many'' women and children onboard the Titanic.

But over the years with more and more investigation and research into the demographics of the Titanic and how many people survived and how many died, the ''official'' number of women who died has been going down significantly.

I guess maybe back when James Cameron did all his research into the Titanic disaster the number of women who died was higher and this may have why he chose to depict a lot of women of all classes perishing in the sinking scenes.

Also many people forget about second class. Films almost only focus on first and third class passengers but they overlook second class passengers and how they dressed like. First class passengers and second class passengers are often grouped together as one in the same. I think it's believed that 20 second class women died. I think people often group those 20 women from second class with the official 4 women from first class who died and thus they conclude that 24 first class women died on the Titanic.

The titanic sank in 1912 back when there were no calculators or electronic accounts. Everything was done with memory and pen and paper. And in a big ship like Titanic it was hard to keep up with everybody. Passengers might have been miscounted or people lied about how many people were in their group.

approximately 1517 people died on the Titanic. But even that number is a modern estimation. Also we tend to only focus only on the popular passengers and the passengers that have Wikipedia articles. But there's hundreds of Titanic victims we know almost nothing about.
 
Jesus Aguilera said:
You make a great point, but the thing is, nobody knows exactly how many people of each class actually died on the Titanic. The numbers that we get today are estimations.



approximately 1517 people died on the Titanic. But even that number is a modern estimation.
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Actually the exact number is known as we have all names.
There were 1496 deaths and 712 survivors.
 
443 adult women were on broad, out of 715 survivors, how many were women? I agree, not many women died compared to the men.

1- 1700 men, 443 women

2- women had first proity.

3- men were expected to die.

So I understand what op means
 
Aly Jones said:
443 adult women were on broad, out of 715 survivors, how many were women? I agree, not many women died compared to the men.

1- 1700 men, 443 women

2- women had first proity.

3- men were expected to die.

So I understand what op means
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74% of women, 52% of children and 20% of men survived. Sounds like blatant age and sexual discrimination to me...:rolleyes:
 
Sounds like roughly 400 women survived, and only 43 died to me. And Around 1700 men were on board, sounds like 1450 men had perished. A rough guessed estimate.

The women deceased compared to deceased men is like looking for a needle in a haystack. Like the op mention, JC had too many deceased women in the movie.

It was back then: a tough life for men in some ways. Like stated above, and going to wars and dying
 
Yes. Approx. The numbers that Ioannis posted are what I go by. You can start from there and do the math. But like most things Titanic you probably get an argument over the numbers. Its been debated a lot. You can look at the link below if your interested. It has numbers and statistics but even some of them are presented in a misleading way. But not a bad overview.
www.anesi.com

Titanic Disaster: Official Casualty Figures and Commentary

Titanic Disaster official casualty figures, with commentary on sex, age, and class variations.
www.anesi.com
 
Steven Christian said:
Yes. Approx. The numbers that Ioannis posted are what I go by. You can start from there and do the math. But like most things Titanic you probably get an argument over the numbers. Its been debated a lot. You can look at the link below if your interested. It has numbers and statistics but even some of them are presented in a misleading way. But not a bad overview.
www.anesi.com

Titanic Disaster: Official Casualty Figures and Commentary

Titanic Disaster official casualty figures, with commentary on sex, age, and class variations.
www.anesi.com
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ok I took a look. Thank you.

So roughly 300 (give or take ) men were saved from 1800 men. Not good. That means 400 (give or take) in those lifeboats were women and there were only 443 adult women on board. Should only be roughly only 40 womens bodies in the water.
 
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