Discovery Channel's Titanic Answers From the Abyss

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At least I believe that is what the airing was called. The show was shot in 1998 and they brought up the BIG piece?

I just saw it today, on for 2 hours.

Has anyone else seen this besides me? They were testing the iron, and the rivets. Testing theories of how she sank. Also the theories of how she broke up.

I know in another section, we were discussing how she broke up... using a stick vs. a paper towel tube as models?

According to the data from the Navy, they say that she split starting at the top, and not on the keel, that the keel held it together until she was under water completely, THEN she split into 2 separate pieces.

There was another documentary that showed that she broke from the keel up, kinda bent from the load, causing the breakage. (the paper towel tube theory).

Does anyone remember what documentary it was that showed the bend in the keel 1st?

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Beverly
 

Brad Rousse

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Yeah, and that she broke in half at 15* degrees and the bow sank like a leaf?!

Well, this WAS made by RMSTI, so it's not like they care about getting details...
 
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Actually, the testing was done using information uncovered by the RMSTI expedition using accurate engineering models. What the tank testing demonstrated was that the bow section likely went down in a seesawing motion at an average speed of up to 22 knots.

The information on the break was obtained using a finite element analysis done by Gibbs and Cox. Hardly RMSTI shills. If you want to get into the details of the sinking, go to Roy Mengot's The Wreck of RMS Titanic. It'll explain a lot.
 

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Oh, I see. If that's true, my apologies to Gibbs and Cox. Expereince is all.

I'm just skeptical of anything RMSTI's involved in. I mean, they once offered an explosion helped sink the Titanic...
 

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Sometime ago, RMSTI said that the wrenched plates under the forward well deck (which was warped by the force of the Titanic's prow slamming into the bottom, and the rest of the ship buckling/landing after IIRC) may have been caused by an explosion. They pointed to the coal bunker fire as an excuse. I read it in the Commutator sometime ago.
 

Bill Willard

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I watched it again. I think it makes me look too wide. I'm in part 1 and part 2, but only in the backgrounds. They are also showing The Investigation Begins from the 1996 Expedition as well.

Brad, please reference the Commutator that addresses RMSTI. I thought the THS avoided the subject of RMSTI.

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I seriously doubt the Commutator mentioned RMST in anything but bad terms. Could you be thinking of Titanic International's Voyage magazine instead, Brad?
 
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Timothy Brandsoy

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I saw it last night. The explosion, they thought, was caused by air trapped in the aft section as it went down. They thought one of the explosions was from the refrigeration sections as there was a lot of cork found in the debris, as they used cork to insulate.
 
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It's worth noting that the explosion...more properly...an implosion...happened after the stern section was submerged. It wasn't a cause but a consequence of the sinking where air filled compartments collapsed under the increasing water pressure as the stern plunged deeper.
 
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Okay, can someone tell me if any of the Discovery Channel's original documentary is contained in the DVD series "Titanic: The Complete Story"? And is "Answers From the Abyss" the same series with the experiments done on the steel piece, and the Roy Cullimore (sp?) experiments?
 

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Kritina, unfortunately it isn't in the set, and it's also not available commercially. "Answers" had the testing both of the steel plating (a small bit of the Big Piece) and the rivets, some from the Big Piece and some recovered from the debris field.
 
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As usual I found out this was airing this morning by accident. It's on the Discovery Science Channel 8 am eastern and I will give it a second look. Nothing much is ever said about the stern section and I'm assuming it's because of its condition and the fact that they can't explore it inside??

Be back later to talk about it

Arlene
 
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Sorry, I forgot to mention this is a two-parter with part II on at 9 am and then they repeat it at 1 pm and 2pm today for those who want to tape or watch it again.

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The scientish who spoke up on this program mentioned that the air expelled following the implosion of the compartments was powerful enough to level a square mile of housing. Given the current condition of the stern, this isn't much of a stretch IMO. About the only way I can think of that an ROV could be sent inside would be by way of the third class stairwell. Given the shattered state of the structure though, I don't know anybody would be able to get very far.
 
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Shane Jenkins

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I really enjoyed this documentary. I taped it when it was first aired in the UK a couple of years ago. It's a bit of a tradition of mine to watch this and many others, including movies to comemorate the sinking each year. One thing that really intriged me was when they spoke of the crows nest. In this show it was barely there any more, but they said that it was almost intact in 1986. It amazes me how quickly the ship is dissapearing. Does anyone have or know where i can find a picture of what the crows nest looked like during the 1986 expedition? Any help would be great.
 
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I enjoyed watching this one too. It just had a different approach to Titanic than the others. As I mentioned above I liked hearing more about the poor stern section. And the part about the hull/keel hanging like a last thread to keep the ship together for the last time was a piece of info I don't believe I had heard before. And then the discovery of that piece was truly fascinating.

Anytime I learn anything new is always a bonus -just when you think you'd heard it all.