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Aaron_2016
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How far do you believe the bow and stern had drifted apart after they broke on the surface? Lightoller believed the screams were "half a mile" away from his boat. Jack Thayer saw the bow moving forwards and presumably away from the stern as she separated, and survivors estimated the stern was afloat for about 5 minutes and may have been carried away by the currents towards the south, or pushed away by the expulsion of air that pushed out of the bow as it went down. Do you believe there was a significant distance between the bow and stern before she part sank? Is it possible that both sections on the sea floor are actually resting near the spot where each sections sank i.e. They sank a considerable distance apart?
Here is the moment Brown saw the stern break and rise up with lights blazing as the bow moved forwards and away from the stern. The bow sinks and the stern rotates around and is possibly pushed further away by the currents and possibly the air escaping the bow.
Jack Thayer
"Occasionally there had been a muffled thud or deadened explosion within the ship. Now, without warning, she seemed to start forward, moving forward and into the water at an angle of about 15 degrees. This movement, with the water rushing up toward us was accompanied by a rumbling roar, mixed with more muffled explosions. It was like standing under a steel railway bridge while an express train passes overhead, mingled with the noise of a pressed steel factory and wholesale breakage of china"......(He swims away and looks back at the ship.)......."She continued to make the same forward progress as when I left her. The water was over the base of the first funnel. The mass of people on board were surging back, always back toward the floating stern. The rumble and roar continued, with even louder distinct wrenchings and tearings of boilers and engines from their beds. Suddenly the whole superstructure of the ship appeared to split, well forward to midship, and blow or buckle upwards. The second funnel, large enough for two automobiles to pass through abreast, seemed to be lifted off, emitting a cloud of sparks................It seemed as though hours had passed since I left the ship, yet it was probably not more than four minutes, if that long. There was the gigantic mass, about 50 or 60 yards away. The forward motion had stopped. She was pivoting on a point just abaft of midship. Her stern was gradually rising into the air, seemingly in no hurry, just slowly and deliberately. The last funnel was about on the surface of the water. It was the dummy funnel, and I do not believe it fell."
Lightoller was sucked down as the bow went under and the second funnel fell. He held onto a broken guy wire and reached the surface. Twice more he was sucked down and blown to the surface and he believed there was an explosion occurring inside the ship. When he reached the surface he found the stern was facing the opposite way. He refused to say the ship had broken, but it is easy to see she was broken as Jack Thayer had already witnessed it and saw the stern corkscrew around, which is the moment Lightoller likely reached the surface. Lightoller then reached the collapsible with Jack Thayer aboard it, and witnessed the first funnel fall down which he said pushed the collapsible a considerable distance away and when he heard the screams he judged their boat was "half a mile" away from the immediate scene.
Do you believe the bow moved far away from the stern, or did the stern move far away from the bow?
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Here is the moment Brown saw the stern break and rise up with lights blazing as the bow moved forwards and away from the stern. The bow sinks and the stern rotates around and is possibly pushed further away by the currents and possibly the air escaping the bow.
Jack Thayer
"Occasionally there had been a muffled thud or deadened explosion within the ship. Now, without warning, she seemed to start forward, moving forward and into the water at an angle of about 15 degrees. This movement, with the water rushing up toward us was accompanied by a rumbling roar, mixed with more muffled explosions. It was like standing under a steel railway bridge while an express train passes overhead, mingled with the noise of a pressed steel factory and wholesale breakage of china"......(He swims away and looks back at the ship.)......."She continued to make the same forward progress as when I left her. The water was over the base of the first funnel. The mass of people on board were surging back, always back toward the floating stern. The rumble and roar continued, with even louder distinct wrenchings and tearings of boilers and engines from their beds. Suddenly the whole superstructure of the ship appeared to split, well forward to midship, and blow or buckle upwards. The second funnel, large enough for two automobiles to pass through abreast, seemed to be lifted off, emitting a cloud of sparks................It seemed as though hours had passed since I left the ship, yet it was probably not more than four minutes, if that long. There was the gigantic mass, about 50 or 60 yards away. The forward motion had stopped. She was pivoting on a point just abaft of midship. Her stern was gradually rising into the air, seemingly in no hurry, just slowly and deliberately. The last funnel was about on the surface of the water. It was the dummy funnel, and I do not believe it fell."
Lightoller was sucked down as the bow went under and the second funnel fell. He held onto a broken guy wire and reached the surface. Twice more he was sucked down and blown to the surface and he believed there was an explosion occurring inside the ship. When he reached the surface he found the stern was facing the opposite way. He refused to say the ship had broken, but it is easy to see she was broken as Jack Thayer had already witnessed it and saw the stern corkscrew around, which is the moment Lightoller likely reached the surface. Lightoller then reached the collapsible with Jack Thayer aboard it, and witnessed the first funnel fall down which he said pushed the collapsible a considerable distance away and when he heard the screams he judged their boat was "half a mile" away from the immediate scene.
Do you believe the bow moved far away from the stern, or did the stern move far away from the bow?
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