Dolls on the Titanic

[Kris Muhvic]

Maureen-

I wish I could help you with the identification of the doll, the only things that I can offer- judging from the photo- is that it was a swivel-head (the rounded shape of the neck bottom, probably with a hole for the string or maybe even elastic cord to be fitted into a shoulder part). The top has a flattened opening....possibly with holes for the stitching of a pad-type thing (think of a pin cushion concept) where the wig would be stiched on. I really want to say the glass eyes are stationary- glued or cemented in- because the "moving" eyes would have metal weights affixed to the inner-eyes inside of the head. Now, not sure of what type of metal, but if it would rust, we would probably see the discoloration on the bisque.

I know these are little details...but maybe they could narrow your search a bit(?).

Take care-
Kris

 

[Maureen Zottoli]

Wow, thanks Kris. You, Shelley, Kimberly, and Randy have been so encouraging and helpful.

I have a video of the doll head, but do not have a photo of it. I have a woman that I researched for who would be glad to see if she can id it. Anyone have any ideas for web sites that have the doll's head displayed?

Maureen.

 

[Andrew J. Evano]

Of course the area around the doll's head would lead us to better understand what type and who the possible owner was. When assuming the doll to be of the highest quality and price it is said that the dolls were made up of porcelin head and hands. Assumung it was a complete doll, the hands should be nearby. Perhaps buried, perhaps not. It seems more likely that the doll has been romanticized a bit due to the fact that people want to believe it belonged to Lorraine Allison. The fact is, there were over 2,000 people on board and dolls, either owned by children, carried by adults, or collected by anyone, were probably high in numbers.

 

[Erica Corbin-Reed]

i think the doll belonged to first class passenger lorraine allison because i remember reading somewhere that it was hers

 

[Jason D. Tiller]

Hello Erica,

That may very well be true, but since there isn't anything to link the doll to Loriane Allison, we can only speculate; which isn't much. In reality, it could have belonged to any of the children on board. I doubt we'll ever know for certain.

 

[Erica Corbin-Reed]

Hello Jason,
where do you get those quotes from by the ship's officers?

 

[Jason D. Tiller]

Hi Erica,

I found Harold Lowe's quote in one of Inger's posts discussing him. It's one of my favourites as it means what it says. There are at least a few other quotes that Inger has posted.

As soon as I find them, I'll post them for you.

 

[Jason D. Tiller]

Hi Erica,

My mistake, I was only able to find one other quote on here that Inger posted. Here it is, which is quoted from James Moody:

"What a lot has happened since then, and what a distance I have covered." - JPM, 1908

I know of one more from Moody, that I've seen on another Titanic forum that was posted by Inger, but I'm unable to find it on there. I recall it being something to the effect of "When I get home, we'll spend all the money in the big fat bank!" You can post your question in the "James Moody" folder under "Crew Research" for the information, since it's off topic for this thread or send her a private message through the board by clicking on her name. I know she'll be more than happy to answer your query.

I hope this helps.

 

[Erica Corbin-Reed]

Thanks Jason

 

[Jason D. Tiller]

You're welcome, Erica. Glad I could help.

 

[Inger Sheil]

Hallo Jason and Erica -

You're correct, Jason - the 'To be happy...' quote is one I posted here a while back in a thread discussing Lowe. In context, the quote is even more interesting, as it comes from a letter in which Lowe was discussing the importance of work and discipline with his son (there are the usual parental admonishments to study hard!).

I'm not sure what Moody quote to which you're referring, Jason - possibly the one in which he joked about having enough money to go on a bender when he left the ship?

 

[Jason D. Tiller]

Hi Ing,

Thanks for the very interesting background information on Lowe's quote. I've been meaning to ask you what the history is behind it.

Yes, that is the Moody quote I'm referring to. I wasn't sure if I had posted it correctly or not.

 

[Erica Corbin-Reed]

Hello Jason and Inger.

Have you seen the Titanic special edition dvd?

 

[Jason D. Tiller]

Hi Erica,

Yes, I bought it. There's a thread titled "Special Edition DVD" in the subtopic "James Cameron's Titanic" under "Titanic Movies", where myself and others have posted our thoughts. We can't get too far off topic in this thread.

 

[Chad Goodwin]

As a child we rarely received toys.......usually on a birthday or christmas......usually just one or two....I have fond memories of things I wanted but never got...so as an adult I collect vintage toys....I have a thing for yellow rubber duckies.......Vintage Barbie(my love of clothing).....pink poodles......paper dolls.....Teddy bears( I have my first teddy circa 1969).......so no....some people never grow up